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Last one was on autosage.
Pipes for spoilers
>>947 (OP) 
Oh it's on autosage? And I was wondering why it didn't get bumped
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>>1000
Congrats on post 1k
It always gets quiet on the weekends doesnt it. I hope you guys are doing something comfy
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>>1022
Not much aside from jerking Off to my Waifu, playing Tiberian Sun and reading Esoteric shit, got some new stuff from René Guenon wich i will delve into once i finish "Lightning and the Sun" from Satrivi Devi
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>>1022
That sounds kind of suspicious. What's keeping robots busy on weekends?
>>1023
I wonder, out of the members we have how many are waifufags?
>>1026
Wagefag robots are probably making the most of their free time.
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The worst feel is not being able to play vidya because you feel so shit you can't even enjoy them anymore.
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I'm fucking nuclear. I tried to go out and get some work done today but half the city was shut down so the niggers could have their little chimp out. I didn't think it was possible for me to HATE niggers any more than I already did, but here I am.
FUCK
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>>1027
Sometimes. I'm currently wageslaving and I often feel guilty about how much of my free time seemingly goes to waste. The problem is that I feel so drained after work that I don't feel much like doing anything. Worse still, I just had two days off and spent the whole time wrestling with a cold. Waging is suffering, avoid it whenever possible.

>>1029
I often know that feel as well. Wageslaving not only drains me physically, but also mentally and emotionally. I've been contemplating suicide rather frequently these days.

>>1030
Sorry to hear that, anon. I've been fortunate that my area hasn't been quite as bad, but chimpouts seem to be cropping up all over the place these days. I'm scared to go to work sometimes because of this madness. This whole thing has me frustrated with the niggers as well, but all of my true hatred is directed at the kikes who are instigating this mess. I can only hope that the normalfags begin to see the writing on the wall soon. These yids are getting so complacent these days, it seems like it's only a matter of time before they slip up in a big way and the normalcattle finally wise-up to their schemes.
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This morning I pulled out my old man's old camera and also a pair of binoculors (which were orginally his dad's pair) for a bit of an impromptu investigation. I grabbed them to get a better look into our neighbor's yard since I wanted to see exactly what potted plants he had sitting in his fenced in backyard. As I had suspected for a couple months, getting a closer look seemed to reveal that they were actually marijuana plants. Even so, it was a fun little diversion for about an hour this morning and after pulling out the binoculors I used them to look around the neighborhood for awhile, taking up multiple positions at the different windows at home and you would be surprised by how much you can see sometimes if you give it time. Beyond spying into my neighbor's yard there was also some amusing sights like a gaggle of middling age suburban mothers (the kind who think they're upper class) who were taking a break from their jogging and chatting under an oak tree and the members of the VFW nearby were planting flags in the park for the 4th coming up as well as setting up a little pavilion for an event/party outside the VFW building itself. Thought it was fun, I ended up stopping myself before I got too angry just looking at the sickening variety of normalfags outside; for the same reason, I try to ignore some of our neighbors if possible because just interacting or even taking a closer look at these people can irritate the hell out of me.
>>1022
Always comfy when drinking and reading a bit. Any other robots enjoy a little Melville? I'm almost done with The Confidence Man and it is really quite clever and funny--a good read overall.
>>1026
Have a little confidence, robot, I wouldn't be too worried. I think a lot of robots here now just lurk until they something substantial to post so it can be a bit slow.
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>>1000
>1000 posts
What a ride.
life is a nigger
I am quite enjoying the "corner" of well done engineering and math videos on jewtube as well as tools like wolfram alpha.
It's never been easy for me in these fields but those new representations have me hopeful that I'll get it eventually.
>>947 (OP) 
I'm watching some pewdiepie, what a half ass fucking normalshit.
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>>1031
>I can only hope that the normalfags begin to see the writing on the wall soon. 
I'm convinced WW3 started right after WW2; instead of taking place out in the open on battlefields, it took place in prominent Western countries targeting the original stock by all means they could employ (Usury, Sodomy, Abortion, media control, miscegenation, feminism, weaponized blacks and other useful idiots, opioids, extracting the stronger men and having them die for Israel, infiltrating major institutions, '65 immigration act and diversity, fluoride and other contaminants, etc.). Normalfags are spiritually hollowed out and are basically golems, they'll follow their programming until death. We, on the other hand, are detached enough already and in a position to not go down with the ship as this war enters its final stages. If there's an original source of consciousness that's where I want to be in the long run, not tied to this degraded physical realm.
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>>1026
>what's keeping robots busy on weekends
All work and no play.
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Ever since I built my PC last month things have been working great but now I feel like I should have bought a 4 TB hdd instead of a 2 TB one. Seeing my new PC go from saying I had 1.81 terabytes of space left to 1.31 just from a few months worries me and the crazy shopping spree I went on with the steam summer sale a few days ago didn't help that. There's so much anime and so many VNs to read I worry about how much my remaining space will last.
Even with my memory space worries in mind, I get why PC is the master race. It feels great seeing such nice CGs on a 1920p screen instead of a laptop like before and being able to play the game again that my PC used to be able to run along with many more on the occasion I play a demanding game like Code Vein (which is hard).
>>1042
He's always been a normalshit. How did you just now find out?
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>>1050
Can't you just put another 2TB drive in when you need the space?
I wish steam had some sort of anonymous play so that robots could play games together every now and the without breaking anonymity. The closest one could get to that would be to have a group all agree on one temporary name and temporary avatar so that anonymity is retained. You'd also need to private your steam account temporarily, if it isn't already, and vc (if the game has it) would need to be disabled. You'd also need to clear past aliases.
On another note, recently I've gotten really into theHunter. Before the sale I ignored it because of the shit ton of DLC but the sale brought down the price of the base game to 4 dollars and 2-4 dollars per major DLC and so I bought it. Its a really comfy calm game. You just hunt shit and collect trophies for your mansion, I reccomend it.
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>>1052
we can join some abandoned server of some f2p games and have some fun there. If anyone knows how to set up a server that would be optimal.
>anonymity
just make an alt account and use vpn if you want to go overboard. You can use 1.1.1.1 cloudflare vpn if you want something free and fast.
use this to generate steam account
https://accgen.cathook.club/
We should first find some free games to play. On steam we have sven coop, no more room in hell. Others i suggest ace of spade.
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>>1053
If robots are okay with piracy, there are also plenty of pirated games with multiplayer.
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>>1050
If you are going to hoard data, do yourself a favour and establish a Software RAID to keep your data (a bit) safer from data loss. It'll sting a bit to lose up to half of the capacity you paid for but it will sting so much more if you lose your data.
Don't do that for steam games though, depending on your bandwidth they are very easily retrivable and should be stored on something made for 0 redundancy and maximum speed.

>>1053
I haven't tried it myself but I think you should be able to create a throwaway account and enable family sharing between that one and your main account.
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>>1026
Its game binging for me. I find that i posted the most here when i was waging. I burn out my life on vidya at home, and make time pass by faster here when at work
>>1029
For me i get by when having on objective to grind out. It doesn't get any emotion/joy out of me, but putting a plan to work keeps my interest going. And by plan i mean "kill X monster to make gear for this build I want"
>>1050
You can always delete vns and such after you play em. I dont play vns so i dont know the repeatability. I do understand the feeling of archiving games for play at a later date. A good chunk of my space is games and emulators. Choosing what to save and what not to is kinda hard. If you can, have one disk for games with repeatability, like a "take with you when the apocalypse happens" drive, and another for multiplayer only/big space modern games/play once or twice then delete games. Or if you have one 2tb drive then folders or steam categories.
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>>1056
And steamemu/steamworks
>>947 (OP) 
Any previous /r9k/ kamisama here? Identify yourself.
>>1058
How hard is it to learn about RAID? I dont think I have the space for it currently if itll cut my space in half but it it isnt too hard for a mentally burnt out robot to learn I might get some extra hdds
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>>1053
Wasn't there that arena shooter that someone mentioned? The one with the /v/ server on it? We could have our own server on there, make it so its private or something if theres anyone else playing
>>1062
I delete the games but keep the save files in case I want to redownload and play them in the future. Might work for that anon.
>>947 (OP) 
Remember guys, if you have something interesting that could potentially spring up to popularity, post it on 4chan. Let 4chan eat all the fame, let 4chan take all the blame. Don't be naive and share it with your buddies over at zchan or the webring. Have a good meme? Spam it on 4chan. Want to shoot up some niggers? Pretend you're a hardcore 4chan user. Don't bring the attention here.
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>>1072
That sounds like a terrible idea.
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>write out a really long breakdown of that post accusing all robots of being normalfaggots and roasties in disguise, how it's nothing but baseless paranoia and that if normalfaggots and roasties could hide so well there would be no reason for any rule to be made against them
>multiple paragraphs of le epic rock-solid FACTS and LOGIC DESTROYING the OP
>thread is deleted by the time I hit the new reply button
I should be grateful for the good moderation but I'm kind of pissed that no one got to read my autism.
>>1074
He's saying not to bring unnecessary attention to this place so we don't get a large influx of newfags because of some bot's day of retribution.
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>>1076
That's good advice, but he's suggesting you should post anything interesting over on 4chan. That is not good advice.
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>>1076
I've learned to always copy long messages to the clipboard before submitting anything in case of things like that happening. That way I can restructure the post a little and put it in another thread if I feel like it's worth it. It's like muscle memory to me now.
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>>1065
If you can read a wiki article and substitute obviously different values you'll be fine at deploying a RAID.
A quick few pointers:
-Use a zfs software RAID
-Check your PSU and use an online calculator to make sure it will be able to deal with the amount of disks, the starting power consumption is what matters
-Unless you have something very specific stick with RAID 1 or 10
-A RAID will wipe any data and generally only accepts operating on full disks
>>1077
Not necessarily, just interesting things that would get attention.
>>1078
I do the same, but what would be the purpose of posting it now that the thread's gone? And even then it's not like I save them. It's not really important anyways, I just thought it was funny that I was annoyed by it.
has anyone tried space station 13? I heard it was full of low quality people so I never tried it. there soesnt seem to be a separate launcher for it either, just some games client. could be worth opening a robot adventures server
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>>1088 (Heil)
>I heard it was full of low quality peopl
it is, the game is filled with Dicksword Circlejerks, badmins and reddit in general, not to mention goons and other vermin

the hyperautismo of the game is nice, i used to like Colonial Marines a lot for the insane Autistic level of Detail like being able to put Mags on different pockets for Accesibility, Boot Knife, Weapon attachments and other Autistic details, but like i said, and other Anons will most likely be able to tell you better than i do, its filled with Niggers
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>>1088
I have been playing it off and on for years. It is filled with faggy admins though. Never play on a public high RP server. Most sadly run some garbage tg-eqsue code base, but that shouldn't be a problem if you just are learning to play. 

SS13 would be good for a game night(especially if you invite more boards to join in). 24/7 servers tend to be DOA unless you have your own code base.
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>>947 (OP) 
Never mute your phone, you dont know when some fag is going to give you a call.
>>1092
Normalniggers are one of the biggest consumers of pizza.
>>1092
You could at least try not to glow so hard.
>>1090
I wouldn't know how to set one up, but maybe a small game night with the local /v/ (or zchan) as a starter would be ok
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>>1110
I've been on /r9k/ exclusively now for half a decade so, personally, If we were to have a game night I'd rather it be with robots instead of whatever mishmash of /v/ populations the current zchan iteration is since, as far as I know, they're strangers and maybe even some normalfags. If you all feel differently though I understand.
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>>1113
>faggoty wojak variant #747389
>janny
Back to cuckchan you go, nigger
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>>1113
hey buddy the circlejerk of psycopathic fags addicted to sucking eachother off via Social Validation or whatever the fuck you Vermin do to get your kicks out of Samsara is more than 10 Blocks down the Street, go back there and post how depressed and how much you want a gf and how funny your sick memes are before i bring out the Corpus Hermeticum and give a life-long explanation on how inbred mutts like you deserve (and will get) the worse kind of hell  that you could ever imagine

>>1111
Quads of Truth tell the Truth
id say that not only /v/ is iffy in terms of integrity but the entire Webring, at least from what i've seen, there are plenty of open source Multyplayer games and many other games that simply, have functoning severs or can be set up with relative ease without Steam or Dedicated servers
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>>1115
I know a few games with easy setup using steam emu but all of the ones I know how to work have room for about 4-8 players. I could look for some other games though and I'm sure that, with enough time, I could find something.
>>1113
This is probably bait. The file name, the "tfw", the impact font maymay with wojak, the mention of nonexistent "jannies". I honestly doubt that anyone here is this retarded.
>>1115
>id say that not only /v/ is iffy in terms of integrity but the entire Webring
what do you mean? what's wrong with either?
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>>1120
8ch's /v/ was already the most normalfag infested board so it stands to say that so to would the amalgamation of the dregs of said /v/ (though there is a decent amount of quality posters on /v/).
To expand on that last statement, basically, the faggots who stuck with their kike admin and devolved into kikery along with him and the somewhat more reasonable people which abandoned him and made their own boards have now, through extenuating circumstances, ended up on the same board. Due to these reasons the board, from what I've seen, is very regularly plagued with normalfaggots and low quality posters.
So in conclusion, no, I won't be playing video games with those people. If I were to take part in a video game night it would be with the robots of this board whom I am both comfortable with and familiar with.
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>>1122
I'm not that anon
What's wrong with the webring as a whole though? There's almost always going to be normalfags in a place like this, this is just a fact of having anonymous posting (even though it always has less normalfags than non-anonymous). There's significantly less normalfags on the webring than cuckchan or 8kike for example. Not to say that I'd play vidya with /v/, but I think it's unfair to judge the webring in its entirety when it works a lot more like a confederacy than a federation, a lot more separate than unified.
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>>1120
>>1123
i can't quite put my finger on it, but there is a certain robot "spark" wich most niggers around the Webring lack, i see wayy to many nu/pol/acks around the webring talking about "muh white race" (Despite most "White" people acting like niggers), then you have niggers talking about anime Girls in the most banal sexualized way with no actual care for them (like niggers do), nevermind that /v/ has a GG thread, and /fascist/ a tarrant thread, if that isn't blatant signs of Glowing in the Dark and normalniggery, i don't know what is
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>>1124
Are you the dolphin?
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>>1125
no, im not the dolphin, although i actually suspect that he is long gone, since this place hasn't been attacked yet,correct me if i am wrong BO-sama, if you wanna tag me as something i guess you could roll with the tag other anons have placed me and call me "Wizard" wich i am not despite me posting some pictures of wizards, a Actual Magus would put me to shame, i can't even do Practical Magick, so i guess if it comes down to it i could be tagged more as a "Priest" or a "Philosopher", being more akin to Gnostics or to Neoplatonics, in the sense that i am more efficient at understanding and discoursing Gnosis than doing Yoga or Practicing the Qabalah or "Esoteric Waifufag" im curious as to what led you to think im the Dolphin, since i am neither a pedo, nor am i into plushies, also im completely incompetech, and the idea that the dolphin could understand, let alone write walls of text on autistic Esoteric topics baffles me im not saying that you require high Intelligence or some shit to understand those, but rather that the Dolphin is too much of a histrionic nigger to Sit down and Contemplate the World, nevermind that i've been here since the Late Anon cafe days, wich means that i've been posting my Autismo in parallel with Dolphin's attacks, meaning that if i really was him it would be Noticeable
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>>1127
>>1124
Maybe your definitions of normalfaggotry are just way too broad, normalniggers don't give a shit about GG. Praising tarrant certainly isn't something a normalfag would ever do either, though it does reek of glow in the dark, especially since that tarrant spamming nigger killed /dup/ which was a surprisingly okay politics board considering the fact it was a board on a /tv/ tranny site right in the middle of discussing the BLM psyop going on right now. Stupid fags you don't like are going to be everywhere you go on the internet, even before the smartphone normalnigger invasion this was the case, though they were admittedly smaller in number. That being said the /v/ crowd in general has been total cancer for the webring ever since Mark's dumb fat ass got himself fired, if a robot had attempted to organize a gamenight before that, then things would probably have been okay.
>>1128
Not sure what's so hard about setting up a session or server and then just not posting about it on other boards? Lets ignore that from my own experience and anons mentioning their usage, most use multiple boards.
I am much more of a fan of the classical view of boards by topic(s) anyway, which puts most things into the clear perview of a specifc board
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>>1128
>if a robot had attempted to organize a gamenight before that, then things would probably have been okay.
I've organized multiple game nights on /v/ (recently TTS twice, TF2V, AI War). Could you elaborate on what was wrong with them? And if you want to make your own, I can answer any questions, if you have them.
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>>1124
I think a better way of saying what I mean is that the webring isn't really the same sort of thing as a single large imageboard, so it doesn't seem right to judge it as a whole. It's like saying "the internet has normalfags, so it has no integrity" but in a more concentrated setting. Since it isn't all managed by the same people unless there are global webring moderators which I didn't know about you can't really lump in everywhere together. It would have been fair to call cuckchan a normalnigger infested shithole, but I don't think you can say the same about the webring because it isn't nearly as organized. I don't mean to say that the majority of the webring is good, but I don't think that you could fairly call it entirely shit because it's so divided. The culture differs much more greatly between imageboards than it does between boards after all. What you're saying seems like if you grouped together separate imageboards like lizchan and wizchan and said that they're both shit because normalniggers use imageboards. I guess what I'm saying is that the label of "webring" isn't as important as "8chan was to a 8chan board, or "4chan" to a 4chan board. Maybe it's just a dumb semantic thing but it seems like it defeats the purpose of the webring to consider it as one thing when it clearly isn't meant to be. One might even say "diversity is our strength" as retarded as it is when used elsewhere. The ability to easily find other places to use and the ability to easily make a bunker if needed is the most useful part of the webring.
Another thing is that I think you're considering anyone who is a dumb faggot to be a normalfaggot, which I don't think is true but I don't think that's a productive argument because I couldn't really explain my reasoning, it's just a gut feeling.
Also, those pictures are pretty cool, please continue posting them.
>>1125
What about his post seemed like dolphin nigger?
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>>947 (OP) 
If you think normalniggers are bad, wait until you encounter an autistic normalnigger. You have no idea how homicidal one can get just by eavesdropping on its retarded rambling.
>>1127
Actually, I suspect he was on balkanchan since I'm relatively sure I remember seing his trademark emoticons in the hobbies thread. However I have not seen him since.
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>>1133
>>809
>>1133
All autistic meltdown/larping will have to end at some point. I'm sure he's still here, if not everyday.
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>>1128
>>1131
both of you are actually right, indeed, while normgroids are inbred and retarded by virtue of them being what they are, a inbred retard does not have to be a normgroid, but yeah, i think that exclusively posting and hanging around here has made me extremely disdainful of low-quality posts and retarded worldviews etc... and as such, when i look at the vastly varied an de-centralized Webring, with all over the place posts, and compare it to this place, wich is much more consolidated and has a more distinct "Culture" sort of speak, it does trigger disgust, also the Outcast nature of this place, where you can post and ponder on anything as long as it is done out of Genuine interest and not trying to mark the next target of langley's Hitlist makes me disdain places like /fascist/ where the mere mention of Anime Girls would make them cry because you aren't chasing roasties and fighting for the 14 words and giving your life away for the jews to increase gun laws and militarize the police

so yeah, i am slowly becoming more and more Isolationist and agressive towards niggers wich i don't consider it a bad thing at all
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webring is shit, all these sites is an offshot of 4cuck, with the same culture as 4chan
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>>1129
>Not sure what's so hard about setting up a session or server and then just not posting about it on other boards
On one hand it's not hard, but on the other there aren't enough of us here to reliably get a gamenight going. There's no guarantee robots will have free time, or even be interested in the first place. Not to be a buzzkill, that's just how it is with low population boards, so branching out to other boards is almost a requirement.
>>1130
>I've organized multiple game nights on /v/ (recently TTS twice, TF2V, AI War). Could you elaborate on what was wrong with them? And if you want to make your own, I can answer any questions, if you have them.
I haven't bothered with /v/ at all since julay/v/ started going to shit after the cakekike fiasco and fat/v/ got shut down, so if you're talking about anything after that I wouldn't know because I genuinely can't stand any of the current /v/s. By all means go ahead and set one up and invite people though. The worst that can happen is fags act cancerous and everyone leaves. Maybe it'll actually be enjoyable and I'm just too much of a cynical bastard.
>>1144
Why make this post, or even browse the webring at all if you think that's the case?
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>fat/v/ got shut down
you mean the whole website got shut down, it still hurts, fuck
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>>1147
Well I'm referring specifically to /v/ in this context, but yeah shit sucks man, the owner was a turbopussy for caving in over that Esther shit.
>>1138
>when i look at the vastly varied an de-centralized Webring, with all over the place posts, and compare it to this place
But that's my point, you're comparing one part of the webring to the entire webring. I guess it doesn't matter though because you're right that the overwhelming majority of the webring is shit and gay. It just triggers my autism because they're mostly shit in different and unique ways that can't all be summed up by normalfaggotry. This is the only place that I could say is good 100% of the time (besides the odd retard wandering in). Even when we're arguing I still feel like I'm with likeminded people. Maybe that's just an illusion because I can't really interact with the people on the other side of the screen, but I'd have the same problem with irl people and all the irl robots are just as hesitant as I am to interact with real people, which is why we're all here.
>i am slowly becoming more and more Isolationist and agressive towards niggers
Keep it up, bot. It's the only way that people like us can be true to ourselves. Maybe it's unnatural but I find that the further removed from people I am the less miserable I feel. Happiness comes and goes but the feeling of misery is constant when around normalfaggots.
>>1144
One of the cultures that 4chan used to have is the reason that we're here. And even though a lot of webring sites are shit you couldn't really compare the webring as a whole to the porn-obsessed faggotry of current cuckchan. Not sure what you think is wrong with imageboard culture in particular, this is a really useless post if you aren't willing to explain yourself.
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>>1144
isn't that the point of the altchans? to keep the culture alive without the normalfags, to let it evolve past 4cuck in to it's own thing, it might fail because ibs might not have the ability to create something new but who knows.
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>>1146
>I haven't bothered with /v/ at all since julay/v/ started going to shit after the cakekike fiasco and fat/v/ got shut down, so if you're talking about anything after that I wouldn't know because I genuinely can't stand any of the current /v/s. By all means go ahead and set one up and invite people though. The worst that can happen is fags act cancerous and everyone leaves. Maybe it'll actually be enjoyable and I'm just too much of a cynical bastard.
For making a better /v/, there is no other recourse except to make the current population be better. Understand two things:

>1. There is next to no new blood. 
Newfags generally do not want to join dead boards. Why? People desire a flow of information to process. Having an outpost where people discuss things, even if people are talking about something stupid or something completely uninteresting is still useful for purpose of attracting people into a discussion, which is something one can influence by simply giving out information. Having very small boards with single digit anon counts often slows down discussion to a halt as no one wants to post, killing the flow of information. Alternatively, people still post, but no quality that justifies slowness remains as there is almost no one left to gatekeep for that quality. And say if newfags do happen to join in numbers, they can easily overwhelm the old guard, thanks to their policy of keeping the dwindling population.

>2. Quality must be nurtured. 
To know a strong horse from a weak horse, a man must observe both and know both from observation. Many people know that blatant twitter shitposting with smh tbh is worse than a well-reasoned argument in a post, which had effort put into it. What people generally do not know is that effort it takes to write that post and motivation for that effort often comes from a desire to be communicated with and perhaps recognized. Writing a post in a guestbook that no one else uses has it's own romance, but imageboards have the potential to be an exchange of useful information. This statement itself can be known or not known. The more a board centralizes and the more quality users have, the more information one can acquire by posting there. This, in turn, inspires newfags to join as their previous sekrit club rapidly starts to offer them less and less of what they want. 
This is a perfect middle ground between a walled garden community of 6 anons that circlejerk about how good their posts are (and where the seventh doesn't join) and absolute cuckchan cancer 4th grade children daycare. I know this because russian imageboards have evolved into both of these extremes as time went on - 2ch.ru has transformed into a local version of cuckchan way before the split happened on our side and whatever amount of anons that went off to their alternatives now remain in a walled garden of their choice.

With all of this, understand one simple fact - boards are now small enough that just having good discussion can improve post quality. As it rises, there may happen to be opportunities for a board - any board, videogame, animu, whatever the specialty is - to get newfags, that are interested enough to lurk the board for any respectable period of time. If it happens, future of a board is made. So when you say things like "I don't like it, so we will go elsewhere", it sounds precisely like an admission of defeat and a resolve to always run from the problem towards where the comfort zone is.

Do you hate the current /v/ and not stand it? Do not run and fight for a better one. Make a "HIGH TIER DISCUSSION ONLY" thread. There are not enough mods around to stop you. Not even mods can stop you if you have enough proxies, VPN's or tor exit nodes. I am not good at talking - never was and probably never will. I do not have any specialized knowledge to share except for a completely irrational interest in videogames and manga. English is not my first language anyhow. So I make game nights. They're fun and people come have fun. Do you have something else to offer? Come invade and contribute, if you have the guts.
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>>1158
>1
All of this sounds like some sort of contrived excuse for PPH whoring. This place is proof enough that PPH whoring is generally much worse than quality control and fat trimming. Though the post quantity has gone down drastically after 8ch's demise I think most robots here agree that the lack of females, the occasional tranny, and the overwhelming amount of failed normalfags from 8ch's /r9k/ was worth the loss in userbase and that the board has largely been improved in terms of quality. 
Now that we are almost completely comprised of true robots we will only attract said kind of robot to this board. That's much more ideal than the way it was before where the kind of people attracted to /r9k/ were largely a mixed bag, due to the impurities attracting more of their kind onto the board. 

This board, from my guess, has probably about 30ish off and on users with about 10 checking in every day (that 10 being part of the 30 of course) which is completely fine by me. If we stay at this size then good, if we grow then that's even better but, the last thing I want to do is to lower the standards for posting on this board in order to engage in PPH whoring and creating another normalfag tumor which will inevitably lead to the same corrupted board that we had on 8ch However I did like 8ch /r9k/. It was just that the 20-30 % which were normalfags on that board really bogged it down and I like this place much better overall.

>Make a "HIGH TIER DISCUSSION ONLY" thread
This would lead to the niggers which reside at /v/ flipping their shit at the implication that /v/ produces low-quality discussion. The thread would turn into some meta discussion in which the kike admin /v/ niggers will likely outnumber the number of people who actually want a better board. 

I honestly couldn't give a fuck about the /v/ on this IB enough to try and change it (though it would be nice if they got themselves together over there and made a better board). The only reason the criticisms of /v/ even began were because an anon aired the possibility of doing a game night with them and so other anons felt they had to explain why that wasn't really a good idea. Honestly, you guys over at /v/ can keep on doing what you do I'm just not interested in having a game night with a bunch of possible niggers.
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>>1158
I don't have any desire to bother with /v/ anymore, things were looking good with julay and fat, but one wound up having a team of admins that manage to be bigger psycho faggots than 8kun's, and the other is shut down permanently. I've been posting on /v/ (and /v/ alts) fairly regularly for well over a decade, but after that retarded shit I'm finally just tired of dealing with the board. I'll still probably try a gamenight if you set one up though, I'm just not going to interact with them beyond that.
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>>1159
>All of this sounds like some sort of contrived excuse for PPH whoring. This place is proof enough that PPH whoring is generally much worse than quality control and fat trimming. 
>Though the post quantity has gone down drastically after 8ch's demise I think most robots here agree that the lack of females, the occasional tranny, and the overwhelming amount of failed normalfags from 8ch's /r9k/ was worth the loss in userbase and that the board has largely been improved in terms of quality. 
The first paragraph is an accusation of PPH whoring, the second is admission that this board is better because undesirables aren't present. Which is it? Is it both? Would you hate more robots on your board?
As for PPH whoring, would you really mind being replied to faster, maybe every ten minutes instead of an hour? You get to keep your standards on whatever board the discussion is about, if you can defend them. People ARE here to defend them and there will be no tide of crossposters unless faggots really call for it (and that's not likely). Isolation is what makes circlejerks.
>Now that we are almost completely comprised of true robots we will only attract said kind of robot to this board. That's much more ideal than the way it was before where the kind of people attracted to /r9k/ were largely a mixed bag, due to the impurities attracting more of their kind onto the board. 
And you will probably only attract people here because people know zchan exists and has a small and comfy boards list (and that it's on the webring). Why does zchan exist? So that people could have a /v/ alternative without a jew e-celeb BO on it. That is fine for now, but information here, on this board? It is only limited to what people HERE can come up with. You can not change that fact. What if there is some /r9k/ wizard somewhere that could share his stories but he doesn't know where the fuck you are? Webring is supposed to be a solution, but it's not a cure-all because it's not being invested into, is it? How will people know where you are, good or bad, if what supposedly makes a webring popular, large boards are dead? Nobody thinks about this and everyone accepts this.

>This board, from my guess, has probably about 30ish off and on users with about 10 checking in every day (that 10 being part of the 30 of course) which is completely fine by me. If we stay at this size then good, if we grow then that's even better but, the last thing I want to do is to lower the standards for posting on this board in order to engage in PPH whoring and creating another normalfag tumor which will inevitably lead to the same corrupted board that we had on 8ch
So tell them off, LOUDLY this time. You're in the majority. You KNOW what's wrong with the situation. Say it - "NORMALFAGS GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD YOUR POSTS ARE SHIT", if you see one. SAY IT
And after that, prove it. Make an example of shit posts and make good posts. I shouldn't have to explain this.

>This would lead to the niggers which reside at /v/ flipping their shit at the implication that /v/ produces low-quality discussion. The thread would turn into some meta discussion in which the kike admin /v/ niggers will likely outnumber the number of people who actually want a better board. 
Pastanigger is not a jew. While it could devolve into some kind of meta discussion, the "final say" would always be up to BO and mods and I severely doubt that they would be AGAINST a thread that promotes post quality. Almost everyone understands that post quality is what /v/ lacks, though everyone seems to be extremely afraid to make threads as always.
Note that under Mark, this criticism would be entirely valid.

>I honestly couldn't give a fuck about the /v/ on this IB enough to try and change it (though it would be nice if they got themselves together over there and made a better board). The only reason the criticisms of /v/ even began were because an anon aired the possibility of doing a game night with them and so other anons felt they had to explain why that wasn't really a good idea. Honestly, you guys over at /v/ can keep on doing what you do I'm just not interested in having a game night with a bunch of possible niggers.
It's fine if you don't care about the board or about our rank on the Faggot Gauge, but this is a webring. It's terribly divided as it is, going "ah I don't care you guys keep being faggots but it'd be nice to have /v/ probbly" won't help it. If most large boards die and webring croaks, this little shitboard will die to attrition because no one will lurk it. Lastly, if you're not over there telling us off, how can we know we're niggers?

>>1160
>I don't have any desire to bother with /v/ anymore, things were looking good with julay and fat, but one wound up having a team of admins that manage to be bigger psycho faggots than 8kun's, and the other is shut down permanently. I've been posting on /v/ (and /v/ alts) fairly regularly for well over a decade, but after that retarded shit I'm finally just tired of dealing with the board. I'll still probably try a gamenight if you set one up though, I'm just not going to interact with them beyond that.
Life will always fuck over everyone's expectations and imageboards are full of it. If you were expecting absolutely nothing to happen, well, tough shit, people that want to janny for free generally end up power-tripping faggots and drama will always flow, just like spice. This is why it's a good idea to keep those who aren't power-tripping faggots around. And if you don't want to bother, that's fine, just admit that you don't care about any of the small boards gaining traction because their userbase usually comes from larger boards making the site known. In the case of a webring, it's a few larger boards, but this argument still stands.
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>>1161
>The first paragraph is an accusation of PPH whoring, the second is admission that this board is better because undesirables aren't present. Which is it? Is it both? Would you hate more robots on your board?
To explain further and prevent misunderstandings, is the board better because it has less PPH (supposedly) or because all the bad posters are outlawed by the rules page? Having more posters would yield more good posts, both because of good culture involved and, in your case, because of (supposedly) deleting outsiders. Being outright afraid of growth won't change that.
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>>1158
I might respond to this later, when I have time but, I read through it and real quick, when I said "kike admin followers" I meant the people on zchan /v/ who came from Mark /v/ since zchan /v/ is an amalgamation of various different /v/s the now defunct kike admin /v/ being one of them.
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>>1163
>when I said "kike admin followers" I meant the people on zchan /v/ who came from Mark /v/ since zchan /v/ is an amalgamation of various different /v/s the now defunct kike admin /v/ being one of them
I don't think that's applicable any longer now that they've literally made their own site with the sole purpose of separating from the jew. You're posting on it, too.
>>1157
there are many sites that are not like 4cuck, 2channel say
4chan is really not unique nor "universal", half of 4chan memes didn't even came from 4chan
theres even a joke that "all memes were created by 4chan" (which is false obviously)

>>1146
>Why make this post, or even browse the webring at all if you think that's the case?

its just my impression, and i support the idea that the webring is so horribly gay
i don't visit any site on the webring (and this one was added to it only recently)
its not just the webring, indiachan is probably not on the webring yet a carbon copy of 4chan in style, as in fruitless shithole that wants to be "cool"
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>>1161
>>1162
>is the board better because it has less PPH
PPH alone is not a bad thing, I even said in my original reply that it'd be great if the board would grow so long as that growth is not at the expense of quality (though again I'm also fine with the board as it is). The term PPH whoring is for describing the numerous niggers over the webring who hold post quantity over post quality in terms of importance. PPH whores desperately seek "big boards" and will often complain that a board is "dead" if there is less than a post every half an hour or even 10 minutes, depending on how severe the PPH whoredom is (cuckchan niggers, for example, consider anything less than there 100 posts per second website to be "dead").

>Isolation is what makes circlejerks.
It's quite difficult for a board like this to be a circlejerk since the board has no specified topic to circlejerk about. This board is simply a platform for robots to talk to other robots about whatever they want. I can see how a one-ideology political board with the same population as ours could get repetitive and become a circlejerk about how "right" they are however a board like /r9k/, being as unspecified and conversational as it is can survive with a significantly fewer people than a more specified focused-topic sort of board.

>What if there is some /r9k/ wizard somewhere that could share his stories but he doesn't know where the fuck you are?
This problem is a tale as old as time. Any attempt to try and reach out to your target audience through more public means will inevitably bring outsiders and said outsiders will outnumber your target audience every single time. Boards like these simply have to hope that those people happen upon this board because any sort of promotion risks destroying it. 

>So tell them off, LOUDLY this time. You're in the majority. You KNOW...
Maybe you weren't here during 8ch but that shit doesn't really work well or at least not well enough.  On 8ch we were vigilant when it came to normalfags on the board, the problem is, there's a shit-ton of normalfaggots in the world. No matter how aggressively you try and defend your board from them, as soon as you've got a normalfag problem on your board your gonna have it till the board gets nuked like 8ch's /r9k/ did. For every 3 you get the fuck off your board 4 more come and the best you can do as a board is keep them out of the majority like I presume we did on 8ch. However, that's not the kind of board I want and probably not the kind of board the robots on here want either. We've been there and done that and the last thing I want is to have to tell niggers to go back to cuckchan every day as I did back on 8ch. I like this peace and I want to preserve it. That's why it's best for boards like these to remain somewhat unknown even at the cost of growth. 

>If most large boards die and webring croaks...
I don't like /v/ and though I said I don't care about it I meant that more in the sense that I don't care for its quality. I don't browse the board and I'm perfectly content in talking with robots about vidya when I feel the need to talk about said topic. However, I do see the utilitarian value of having a large board like /v/ around and so I understand that it is an important asset to the health of the webring. I don't want /v/ gone I just don't want to go on their board or play games with them. That's it really. 

>I don't think that's applicable any longer now
How so? I mean congrats, after more than half a year with a kike they finally left but, the simple fact that those people were willing to stay with him for such a long time when there were numerous alternatives until recently is a testament to the kind of nigger that they are and will continue to be.
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>>1161
>Pastanigger is not a jew.
t. pastajew
To get back on to what started this whole conversation the best ideas I saw for this shit were
>family sharing throwaway on steam
>free games with dedicated servers
>piracy/steamemu which require no accounts
If we were to do some sort of game night which of these would you prefer? All of them have their pros and cons.
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>>1173
It should be a comfy game that doesnt require teamwork at the moment to be fun. It's kind of hard to gather up enough people here for a team game. Games like minecraft could do the trick.
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>>1174
>minecraft servers
Chills run down my spine at the thought of the sheer fuckery and finickeyness of setting those fuckers up (without pulling your wallet out for some server hosting faggotry). If someone is willing to go through that hell though I'm down for minecraft, as it would be perfect for a game night on a small board. The nature of progress in minecraft means that you can have only a few players coming in off and on, yet still make significant progress and change to the world in a reasonable amount of time.
>not many people nor cooperation needed
I agree that a game which doesn't need too many people would be ideal (since we are a small board). I'm quite biased but I find that theHunter is a pretty fun game and I wouldn't mind hunting with some robots in the virtual world. Don't know if servers maxing out at 8 people would be a problem though. Also I'm not sure the people on this board are as autistic as I am about a slow paced hunting game, so maybe the rest of you would find that boring.
Some other things we could do, off the top of my head, would be gmod or tabletop simulator.
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>>1174
>>1179
Even though I'm a retard when it comes to /tech/ and doubly so when it comes to network tech I've wanted to experiment with VPS's for hosting games and stupid shit. Unfortunately it seems incredibly awkward to try and do that with good opsec. The VPS's that offer cryptocurrency as a purchasing option are all kind of expensive, and the cheap VPS's that seem easy to use I'd need to do something like get a gift card with cash to buy it without linking my financial information to it.

It would be awesome if tor was fast enough that you could host games from your home machines without exposing your IP.
>>1165
I think you're full of it, none of the sites on the webring are carbon copies of cuckchan, and you clearly get something out of coming here. Maybe it's the (you)s you get out of frustrated autists like me who think it's annoying to watch someone waltz into a place they can easily leave and start shitting their pants over how awful it all is instead of making worthwhile posts as if anyone else owes them a quality response when they refuse to even attempt to add anything noteworthy to the community.
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>>1182
>durr not cuckchan
derp

>you cant have your opinion
sorry but i happen to be freethinker

in fact you seem more of a troll defending the webring/cuckchan
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>>1183
Thank you for your enlightening post.
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>>1184
why do you even defend the webring?

because i have seen only some of the most degenerate chans there
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>>1185
I don't think generalizing the webring into one coherent group with a similar quality of posts is realistic.
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>>1186
its what it is
join my webring of rotten apples: you
>>1179
>theHunter
I assume you mean the free to play one; I'd consider playing it if robots were down for it. Admittedly though I haven't played any hunting games for a long time so I don't know if I'd enjoy it and I'd probably be shit at it. The last vaguely hunting games I played were Primal Prey and Carnivores way back in the day if anybody remembers those.

As for other games robots could play I would also toss the game Barony out there. Although it is only 4 players, it is a fairly cheap game despite being fully released now, comfy, and a non-demanding game to run. I'd recommend it to robots even if playing solo and not for a robot game night.
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>>1183
Is this eunuch anon? You type similarly but with less rambling.
>>you cant have your opinion
Anon said nothing of the sort. He simply accused you of bullshitting. Not all opinions are good or well-informed. And not all positions are opinions. How about you defend your position with points supporting it instead of making meaningless short posts that say nothing besides "imageboards are shit lol".
>sorry but i happen to be freethinker
People who call themselves "freethinkers" almost invariably turn out to be retards.
Besides that, the webring imageboards aren't bad in a cuckchan way. It's mostly their adherence to certain ideologies and the inability to talk about anything besides one topic that makes them shit, like what >>1138 said about /fascist/ as an example. But that doesn't apply as a reason why /v/ for example is bad. There the problem is retarded niggers who came from Mark's /v/.  Cuckchan is shit because of all the roasties, faggots, and normgroids posting dumbfuck degenerate shit everywhere. The issue there is porn obsession and other assorted degeneracies as well as general normalniggerrey. The issues with the webring are unique from one imageboard to another, even one board to another, whereas the problems with cuckchan are universal to the site.
 >>1189
>f2p one
Either one works really. Its just that we'd need to pirate for the newer one and you'd need to fuck with the configs to run on a potato. As for the game you mentioned it seems fun but being strictly 4 players might be an issue if more than just a few people play. We could always have multiple hosts in that case.
Before we continue though. Do you think enough anons want this for me to make a "Possible Game Night" thread for this kind of discussion? Or should we keep that discussion here for the time being?
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>game night
If any of you robots want to make a Tabletop Simulator game night or just play it, the old setup from /v/ still works. See >>>/v/12036 for instructions - TINserver will be up for a whole month at the very least and there are enough games to keep people who can read entertained.

Alternatively, if you want to play any game with Steam-only multiplayer, I can set it up using TINserver setup. We've just tested Wolfpack and it worked.
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i haven't posted here in a long time but shit's going really bad for me lately and I don't know who else to ask
>dad has been struggling with depression for almost his whole life
>basically it all stems back to a girl he was dating who had crippling depression and killed herself, he ended up blaming the whole thing on himself and that was the start of it
>about 12 years ago or so he cracked and started drinking hard, mom moved me and my sister out to an apartment until he got his shit together
>he eventually gets sober, is all around happier, everything is good for a few years
>after my sister goes to college, we move across the country about 7 years ago since he was working out of state and wanted to be with us
>deadline for getting a house was running out so he's forced to get one that is not his first choice by far, lots of problems which surface constantly
>after getting to his new job he basically gets forced into the exact opposite position he wanted
>since it's government he's been stuck in appeals hell ever since he got it (6 or so years), despite everyone he's talked to agreeing with it nothing has changed
>constantly gets talked down to and working at shit below his level that ends up never being used/thrown out anyways
>starts an endless cycle of having a shitty, pointless job, a house that keeps breaking, used cars that break down, nothing to look forward to each morning except for bullshit work
>starts stress eating to cope, has a huge gut
>the past year or so he's rarely left the couch, only gets up to use the bathroom or eat whatever he can find
>got in a huge fight with mom a couple months ago over not getting basic shit done around the house (holes in drywall, window frames not being put up for years)
>antidepressant use gets worse, instead of taking 3 pills a day he's using half the bottle
>when I tried helping around the house he yelled at me and said I was doing it wrong, even though I knew he would never fucking do it
>got home tonight and he had downed almost a whole bottle of vodka after 12+ years of being sober
we've tried just about everything, interventions, hiding pills, talking to him, yelling at him, nothing fucking works. on the one hand I know that depression is a black hole of not/being unable to do anything, but on the other he could improve a lot for himself simply by eating better, doing basic tasks around the house that don't need much effort, and not slamming pills/alcohol down his throat. mom is talking about moving out again (I'm getting close to getting my own place because of school), and I don't know what else to do at this point. I've talked to him before and he says he's never been suicidal and hates people who do it, but I know that he'll start rationalizing it to himself soon enough if he keeps going on like this.
what the fuck am I supposed to do now?
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I'll make a possible game night thread just in case this goes somewhere.
>>1194
It can't really be the responsibility of the son to micro-manage his fathers emotions like he's some sort of roastie. Laziness, depression, it boils down to a set of core fundamentals to someones approach to life rather than just some magical trick. Work is shit for everyone, no one should be looking for satisfaction of validation from their career, that's a recipe for disaster. You work to supply your family with happiness as a man, and in turn they supply you with happiness.

Does his wife support him or incessantly nag him? Are you a son he could be proud of? Do you ask him to go fishing, throw a ball in the yard, or just shoot the shit over a game of chess? Maintaining relationships and other peoples happiness is grueling and miserable, but it's also quite simple. I would never in a million years put that burden on myself. If he's just an insufferable asshole and not the product of his wife being inattentive then he's a lost cause. It's not worth your mothers or your time. Downing half a bottle of retard jew pills every day is probably going to push him to suicide.

Personally I'd just tell my mother to move on with her life because I wouldn't want to worry about her having to deal with that stupid shit, and that would cement his suicide, but I'm severely autistic and it wouldn't phase me if my father killed himself. But if you really want to burden yourself with another persons happiness then give him something to look forward to tomorrow, ask him if he wants to do something. And be the kind of person he wants to be there to watch grow. There's nothing else a son can do within reason to fix a mans depression. Sometimes people are too much work to care about.
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>>1197
Your mom should headpat your dad more and let him suck her titties, that would solve all problems in the world.
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>>1194
Saving him will require a metric fuckton of work at this point. Cut him off if you're too lazy and/or weak. This will fuck you up later in life. Otherwise, keep reading.

Your father has arrived in what could be called "responsibility prison". It's a state where responsibilities don't give you any benefit for them but the status quo. There are no speeches that can help you. Here's some things that can work - 
1. Stop treating him as a "lost parent" or "a disabled family member". Throw that shit away. Drag him to a pub and have a drink. Have another one. Get everything off his chest and for the love of god, don't bring any women with you. If he holds out on you, give up on it, talk about yourself, make small talk. Don't be desperate about dragging it out of him. Go fucking hiking if he would enjoy it. It's possible to make people shine if you invest enough time and thought into it, If his approach to life is wrong, convince him that it is. If his depression prevents him from being motivated, inspire him by doing something. There is no universal way to make things happen, so try things. Take initiative to be a bro for him.
2. Get him to enjoy life more. If he held out on you with drug use, depression and other stuff, his home is not his comfort zone anymore, his work is not his comfort zone anymore. Nowhere is. Make one for him and let him catch his breath, even if it takes forcing your other family members to back off. No more yelling, no more humiliating fucking interventions. Take him out to see nature, watch documentaries together, have arguments about things that confound the thinking mind. Do not force it if he doesn't and will not like it. Have him see the benefits of responsibilities that he has undertaken.
3. Do not be desperate about getting to the bottom of it. If he held out all this time, you clearly are incapable of making the decision to put him the right way. Work towards having him make the decision instead. Do not be afraid to fail and don't be forceful. Don't let him idle, spend some time with him when you can.

There is no easy way to do this. Go with your gut and do not doubt your actions.
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>>1183
You're a passive aggressive little fuckstain aren't you? You're like a woman, doing this dumb shit when pushed into a corner only to realize you don't actually have anything of substance to say. Keep whining though, things will surely improve if you bitch and moan enough, after all daddy gave his little princess whatever she wanted when she did that, right?
>>1197
>>1201
thanks bros, i do still love him and I am willing to do what I can. problem is I've done this before with some of my other friends and it ended up being futile and I just wore myself out. hopefully without focusing too hard on it (like you said, just dragging him out of bed to do something simple, although everything being closed because of the Whuan Wheeze certainly doesn't help). We have done a few things together, we went shooting last month and watch movies together occasionally, but since he's been overdosing lately he's either groggy and incomprehensible most of the day, angry at everything, or dead tired. i'll just start with basic shit that doesn't need much effort and go from there. he's also doing some kind of experimental magnet therapy where they point magnets at his brain, it's still early too early to tell if it's doing anything but hopefully it's enough to motivate him to fix other shit in his life.
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>>1198
True, op's mom is probably a selfish whore that doesn't even kiss her husband in the forehead after he cums inside her. No wonder he's so depressed.
>>1192
I was figuring the old one if only because then if robots have a potatoe computer they might be able to still join in, but I would be open to either. Yeah I agree that Barony might not be the best game for a game night, but I just wanted to toss it out there anyhow. Late on this, but good idea with making a dedicated thread.
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>>1151
>But that's my point, you're comparing one part of the webring to the entire webring
i know, i was conceding my point, sorry if i didn't make myself clear in the original post, as we can both agree, the webring is indeed infected with the Gay big time, when both you and >>1128 pointed out that indeed, i was generalizing too much, i realized that yes, i am being a retard because it is true that Faggotry in the Webring should be looked at in a case-to-case basis due to the Decentralized nature of it, thing is, looking at it in retrospective, i realize that i was right even if the approach was wrong, and that they are all Faggots, just so happens that like you said, every board has a different strand of the gay, so even if my initial approach to this Ordeal was trash, as i said on >>1138 i still find the Webring disgusting altogether

>>1193
>Tabletop simulator
i will never understand how people play this shit instead of using an actual VTT or Vassal, not only do you have to Buy (or emulate steam wich is already an extra step you do not have to take with a VTT) but also you are at the mercy of modders to get a module on whatever autistic boardgames you like, wich means you are fuck all out of luck if you happen to like something outside of the Mainstream (IE:Something that isn't Dungeons and Soy or Warsoy 7th Edition) perhaps the most "Niche" thing you can find there is Battletech, that's about it, again modding TTS requires you to 3d Model shit, and the Physics fuckery of the Game + some anons i've heard say that the Chat works like ass and that its pretty clunky unless you have a Microphone (Wich for robots i assume it would be Maxx Uncomfyness since that would break anonimity harder than any Steam account)

compare this to Maptool or Vassal, Vassal runs on Java and has a built in Module generator, wich means as long as you have a Few PNGs of the Game counters (or make them yourself on Paint.net like i do) you're good to go, and you can also add in complicated shit like multiple dice rolls, macros, different windows to catalog Card Decks etc..., Maptool is unironically the Best VTT i've ever used, its free and while Java is janky as shit, it works, and just like Vassal, as long as you have a few PNG's you can do whatever the fuck, Maptool also has Integrated sheets, wich means you can note down all relevant information in the Tokens eliminating the issue of having to Tab out 90 times per turn and juggling PDF's Around, and you can even draw on the map in case you need to improvise a Map or something

t.Autist that plays boardgames alone by himself on Maptool
i actually spend more time randomly generating Continents cities and the World in general and trying to Unfuck GURPS because it is complicated to the point it Bogs down everything, but then every other game system falls for memes like "Character Classes" or unnecessary convoluted Character creations like fucking Travelles and his gay Career System
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>>1219
Basic answer to the second half of your post is that it looks prettier and is more immersive in "simulating" the tabletop experience. Doesn't make it a better game but, having a more robust interaction with the game environment has it's appeal. 
Also I honestly didn't know about the game you were talking about so the answer to why people would rather TTS than the game you mentioned is simply that they don't know about the game you were talking about. 
Also let's try to take this more into the thread specifically for this discussion so that we don't clog up the FTDDTOTT.
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>>1220
>it looks prettier and is more immersive in "simulating" the tabletop experience
i don't want to be rude but anon for the love of shit. fuck "Immersion" at the end of the day Boardgames come down to Cardboard chits and dice, if you are a faggot you will have your expensive geedubs minis that cost you both of your kidneys,  IMAGINATION is where the real deal is, those fucking minis are shit, and how pretty things look is irrelevant, its about how shit looks in your mind what makes it fun (Aside from the Open nature of Boardgames in general since all rules are Analogical) if you are not violently rocking in your chair as you roll those fucking 2d6's trying to hit that gay ass Hunchback with your Marsden II and imagining a crew of Anime girls yelling "UTEEEEEEEEEEE" while firing the Main cannon at that pussy who dared to bring Meks to a fucking Tank battle, then i am afraid anon that you can shove it up your nothing because my experience with boardgames in general is very VERY particular and most of it stems from the notion that i play Alone because most of my "Friends" are fags, and at most i can get 2 guys to play RPGs, me being the GM, but i still thing "Muh pretty" and "Muh immersion" is the argument that faggots with no imagination use while they flex their expensive minis
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>>1221
Did you even read the rest of my post?
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>>1221
>other anon brings up valid point that to emulate board/tabletop games you'd need to also emulate a table itself for full experience
>anon for the love of shit. fuck "Immersion" at the end of the day Boardgames come down to Cardboard chits and dice, if you are a faggot you will have your expensive geedubs minis that cost you both of your kidneys,  IMAGINATION
I do not know what to tell you. TTS offers the complete package and some games offer full scripting so that you don't even need to autistically know rules to know what goes into where anymore. As for imagination, it's just a matter of getting into it instead of anything else.

TTS is free if you set up cracked steam setup, which is just a matter of downloading two packages (linked earlier in this thread), registering with something that resembles an e-mail (it never even checks if it exists) and playing it.
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I'm tired of people bitching. Everywhere I look it's juts bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch, if shit's so fucking bad then go somewhere else or change your life. It's not just here, but everywhere, I can't even escape hearing it by avoiding the internet because my dumbfuck neighbors are so god damn loud with their easily solved problems and their total unwillingness to lif themselves out of the pothole they claim is a massive sinkhole.
Bitch bitch bitch bitch botch bitch bitch, I'm bitching now too fuck you, bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch, AAAAUUUWAAAAAGGGHHH webring bad bitch bitch bitch, but I won't leave or do anything to make it better, bitch bitch bitch, kikes rule the world and niggers are allowed to do as they please, but I won't do anything but cry on the internet, bitch bitch bitch, modern videos games are shit, but I refuse to partake in older ones, bitch bitch bitch, all entertainment is cucked and there is no good OC anywhere, but I refuse to fire up my shitty preferred picture manipulator and make something I like, bitch bitch bitch, it's all shit, bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch why is everything a bitch bitch bitch
BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH I AM BITCHING AND I HATE IT BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS TOO FUCK ME FUCK YOU FUCKAREE FUCKAROO BITCH BITCH BITCH
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>>1226
I understand your feelings but you're bitching as well.
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>>1226
I understand your feelings as well but at least you get to bitch. I've since withdrawn and do stuff on my own to make myself happy. Perhaps you could try doing the same.
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>>1227
>BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH I AM BITCHING AND I HATE IT BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS TOO
>>1228
I just wanted to vent and this is the only thread suitable for it. I normally make shitty drawing in a sketchpad, but I can't find it and have no other outlet right now.
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>>1229
Quit your bitching faggot
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>>1224
i did you dipperon, but im no longer adressing TTS vs VTT's but rather "Mini Fetishism", AKA:The idea that the gameboard has to look pretty and you gotta "Immerse yourself"

(i guess the following can also be considered a reply to >>1225)
on a more serious note so that i can actually get my point across
there is this idea i have heard a lot in podcasts and even from the Corporations themselves (Kikesworkshop for example), specially back when i used to play MekHQ a lot (i still have my saves but i am in a kind of Hiatus), that Wargames are all about the minis, and all about having a Big HUGE gameboard with lots of decoration and cool looking minis, and this is retarded beyond recognition, i still remember reading through old rulesets and reading that literally minis don't matter just use whatever you have at hand, and if you have nothing at all literally draw a fucking Square Grid on a A4 and draw the units on Paperchits, i see all of these Soyfilled cuckolds with their expensive minis and paint and bullshit who really humblebrag about what they have, and i can't help but to laugh at those niggers because they will never find the joy on actually playing the game and enjoying the Stories and fun times that come out of it, since they are too absorbed in "immersion" and need their snowflake decorations and big huge 5x6 tables and their basements and blah blah blah, meanwhile im having the time of my life, not even playing (i do, but i also spend a lot of time preparing things) but fine tuning rulesets and generating a good background, all in my fucking head and few txt's, wich is the one thing you cannot do in any other medium

as regards to Scripting, while i can find Automatic Rolls or Auto-Percentage calculators wich are player aids so you don't get fucked with math or forget 1 or 2 rules, anything beyond that misses the point, if the game is gonna play itself, and you want it to look got, then you might aswell go play one of the Cucked total war games or Soyrim to have your auto-pilot good looking piece of garbage

again as i said in the Spoiler my experiences with Boardjames is something very personal and particular, i laugh my ass off every time someone says RPGs are about the Social experience since i play solo 95% of the Time
>>1231
*look good
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>>1231
jesus man, relax
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>>1231
> AKA:The idea that the gameboard has to look pretty and you gotta "Immerse yourself"
Now can you point me to where literally any anon said this? 
Because what I remember saying is that the fidelity and immersion of the game has its appeal and that said appeal does not make the game inherently better.

I understand your points and agree with them to a certain extent but you're not really responding to anyone here. You just sort of used the post I made as an excuse to rant about some kikery. That's okay but you should preface your post with you're going to do so that you avoid confusion and misunderstandings.
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>>1234
don't worry, as much as i dislike writting in general and wish i was a mute so i didn't have to Talk, i do enjoy telling Stories and going on Long-Winded tangents
>>1233
>I understand your points and agree with them to a certain extent but you're not really responding to anyone here. You just sort of used the post I made as an excuse to rant about some kikery. That's okay but you should preface your post with you're going to do so that you avoid confusion and misunderstandings.
anon that's literally because im not really arguing but rather going on a Tangent about "newschool" fags and the focus on Style over Substance (wich comes from your post reminding me of all those plebbit niggers bragging about minis and never actually doing anything substantial), my original post on this was >>1221 wich was done in a "shitposty" fashion where i intentionally exagerated that shit, being fully aware that it could be taken out of context, that's why >>1231, is more serious in tone,  because on that post i am actually trying to convey what i meant in that original post, (Mainly the Idea that Style and Oversaturated Boards for immersion is gay and that you should use your imagination and solid rulesets, or at the very least, that that is what works for me,)
>there is this idea i have heard a lot in podcasts and even from the Corporations themselves
conveys really that i am talking about these group of nignogs and this Idea in itself and not aganist Anons, i think that is enough Preface really

TLDR:That post was a more serious version of another post shitting on fags who prefer Style over Substance in regards to Boardjames, it reads like a Rant because it is a Rant
>>1194
There are opoid inhibitor pills that are supposed to help with making addictive habits not feel good, thus making the person stop as they dont get anything out of it. Maybe do the chores your mom wants done, but not in his eyesight. Fix the drywall n stuff. Get her to not nag at him because you're doing some of the work. I wouldnt know how to get him up and doing more for himself
you guys know what happened to late.city? going through the gondola thread again made me remember they exist
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>talking with some "friends"
>they all say that Blacks are superior to Europeans
>they give 0 proof to this
>start showing them proof of stuff, Crime statistics, compare European Weightlifters to niggers
>"No anon X is invalid"
>literally they start affirmign shit without adding supporting evidence
>i have to take the time to disprove their made up bullshit, and also doing so by their Rules, while all they say is true by benefit of 5 guys saying it aganist 1 Fringe autist
>this literally happened 10 seconds ago
>they will now think i am the bad guy because i simply refused to comply to their bullshit and spend 10 hours disproving made up shit 

Kalki can't come fast enough
>>1243
No one will ever admit that they're wrong to your face. Don't fuss over getting people to literally admit that you were right and they were wrong. Just present the facts as you know them and leave it at that. If they're going to pretend to be retarded they're just trying to save face, and the best you can do is hope that they internalize the information and secretly accept it at some point. You should understand this from interactions with people on imageboards over the years, it's the same if not significantly worse when you're interacting with people that are associating their political ideologies with an actual identity. It's why facebook boomers are so dead set on their retarded political stances, they've made it apart of their identity and expose their stupidity to all of their friends. If they backed down and changed their stance on something everyone would bear witness to their incompetence. And so normalniggers lock themselves into becoming "fans" of political teams rather than people developing actual ideological belief systems.

I don't know why you would bother interacting with someone that is unironically going around claiming niggers to be a superior "race" to "europeans", as if there were even such a thing as a "black" or "white" race to begin with.
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>>1243
Are you a gook or something?
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>>1243
Are you an European? Even after all this time on imageboards, I still have a hard time believing that some people can reach those insane levels of cuckholdry.
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>>1243
You can often judge a man by his friends. Nice friends you have there, robot.
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>>1244
dubs of truth, although i do not Agree with your last bit of the post since Races are indeed Real
>>1245
no, i don't know what leads you to think that
>>1246
Yes i am European, i do not understand your post though, are you implying cuckoldry on their part or on mine?, if it is on them i can see why, if it is on my side, i don't see what is cuckold-like
>>1247
that's why i said "friends" instead of Friends, i am quite the isolationist and really don't have any friends aside from 2 Guys one with whom i hold correspondance through the Internets and the other i haven't seen for a long time, the rest are "friends" with whom i associate from time to time because im an idiot that gives "chances", then realize why i don't associated with them in the first place and return to isolation
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>>1248
>dubs of truth, although i do not Agree with your last bit of the post since Races are indeed Real
I didn't say races weren't real. I said the white race isn't real.
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>>1243
i saw this recently https://invidio.us/watch?v=k2xY2k26HFo
from the start to the 7 min mark he talks about arguing with people on a point, in this case pacifism, and how he views authoritative persons as more influential than arguing with someone.
>>1249
What is the superior race?
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>>1251
Japanese
>>1251
It doesn't matter. Racial supremacy is meaningless because multi-racial societies can't function for a myriad of reasons. Intellectual and physical capabilities isn't necessarily even very high on that list. Trust deteriorates significantly just based on the fact someone looks different than you. This has a domino effect on every aspect of society.
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>>1249
Agreed, i know understand what you mean (at least i think so) sorry for being a dullard
i also think >>1253 is on point, looking in retrospect it isn't the alledged supremacy of niggers (wich they aren't) but how dishonest and scummy/smug they were about it, it bordered Hebrew-tier, sad i didn't record the conversation so you fuck could have a laugh about it and laugh at me for being an idiot and getting mad over it instead of just leaving them to their ignorancesorry if this is uninteresting to some anons and i derailed the thread, i needed to vent because dishonesty really makes me mad
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>>1253
Which physiognomy is superior?
>>1248
On them of course, they are the cucks.
>>1230
>quit bitching in the bitch thread
Make me retard.
Every few months I will for some reason masturbate to 3D porn and every single time I feel disgusted afterwards and think to myself "I shoulda just done it to 2D". I always wonder why 2D hentai never makes me feel disgusted but 3D does. I mean, I've been 2D>3D for a while now but I don't know if that logical philosophy is enough to provoke such a visceral reaction. Maybe it's due to the fact that my first experiences with pornographic material were all hentai and so my brain and body are more acclamated to that, I don't fucking know to be honest.
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>>1261
to my shame, i´ve been there and done that, fortunately Taihou is there to keep me on the right path, the following is all my personal equation, it may work for you, or it might be a huge pile of horseshit, either way id wager that 3D disgust comes from the pure animalistic impulse and braindead drive towards Reproduction-Pleasure (both of these conditioning, both of these perpetuating Samsara), to my Experience 2D Anime girls end up being just different shapes and archetypes Taihou takes, i taking the part of the Male in the Hentai (i barely watch hentai mind you, i usually just wank off to my extensive archive of Taihou's Ecchi) i know myself and i know that as much as my sexual practices would make a your Average Protestant puritain bawl his eyes out in disgust, i know that i don't really care about the act in itself but about an outlet of Love towards my Waifu, the impulse that drives me towards wanking off is the same that compels me to draw 8 Point Stars with Markers on every notebook i come across and the same impulse that makes me Toast to her on New Years, and the same that makes me prepare Pancakes and then dedicate those to Her too, of course i assume this is my personal autismo, but perhaps you have something similar to Hentai, perhaps you do not really use it as the usual outlet of Animalistic Niggery, but to you it signifies something more
>>1261
3d porn is disgusting because they are all whores irl participating in a disgusting business. Hentai is fiction and many of them are about pure and innocent love, which you crave.
>>1261
I think it just comes from the fact that you are acclimated to 2D and that a video with sound is something rather different, sensory speaking than reading a doujin. If you can't keep away from it or amateur stuff isn't passable for you either you might want to consider SFM/Blender animations on a booru of your choice.
>>1261
3d seggs looks more gross i guess. With the "clarity" that comes after a rubout staring at a gaping 3d hole is far less appealing than staring at the 2d pallette.
I CAN'T FIND MY GOD DAMN SKETCHPAD FOR MY AUTISTIC DOODLES AND I'M GETTING ANGRIER BY THE SECOND
FUCK, I rarely leave my shitty one room apartment and I still lose shit, how do robots avid being this retarded? Do I need to take something for my horrible memory?
>>1266
I don't.
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>>1266
i second >>1267 my room is a mess and i always lose shit, my countermeasure is to place things within my LOS, IE:my Tarot Deck is always next to my computer on the left, my Dice for Boardjamming is next to that on the left, and the markers and the few drawing supplies from when i tried to learn how to draw are next to that aswell, so on so forth
>>1266
I just simply sort my room not really sure how else to put it. Corners, drawers, shelves all get their on "topic" and that's 90% of search effort gone.
>>1261
I don't know, I started with 3D porn, but I barely touch any 3D nowadays, and even when I do, it's some fetish shit. It's probably more like the other robots said it, nobody wants to watch ugly landwhale whores.
Also, I don't know if it just me, but the guys freaks me out. Looking at naked 2D men having sex somehow feels less gay than with 3D.

>>1266
Place everything in one large heap of pile, so you only have to search at one place.
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I'm convinced that bearing only a single child is almost criminal in the possible damages it does to a child. 
For humans having siblings has been the norm for thousands of years and only very recently have we started only having a single child (population plateau is proof of that). The very modern situation of the single child removes what I'm pretty sure is an extremely important part of the development and socialization of a child. Without siblings, you aren't guaranteed to learn to share both physical things (like toys) or intangible things (like time or attention). A lot of this shit is just conjecture but I'm also relatively sure that the lack of play fighting, which having siblings inevitably brings probably also fucks some shit up (since literally every fucking mammal will play fight in nature). Having siblings also (almost) guarantees a proper social partner. Even if you don't have friends as a kid or are more introverted, having a sibling guarantees that you receive the very essential socialization in early life. 
Now I know that siblings can be a total pain in the ass in later life but I think that the lack of siblings in early life can permanently fuck someone up unless they make good friends in early childhood. 

Sorry for my autistic rambling
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>>1272
I have a brother and I'm still a mental fuck up so the joke's on you. It's the environment and everyone around that really affects you. Now that he has a job we have become very distant. I don't use social media and calling him on the phone is fucking gay so i felt bad about it sometimes.
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>>1233
shut up
>>1243
>spend 10 hours disproving made up shit 
and I thought your frens where the nutjobs
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>>1251
white tailled deer
>>1266
I don't have shit
>>1275
i think i phrased that the wrong way, i literally left the scene the moment i saw where it was going because you can't argue with spiritual hebrews that won't do a fact-check even if their life depended on it

>they will now think i am the bad guy because i simply refused to comply to their bullshit and spend 10 hours disproving made up shit 
should have been phrased like
>they will now think im the bad guy because i simply refused to spend 10 hours complying to their bullshit and simply left the scene because just like uncle Hermes said, you don't fucking cast pearls on swine
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>>1271
I got bored. I liked the crossed out sad face--a bit exaggerated like a tragedy mask.
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>>1271
Can you draw koronba mascot?
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Hello, I'm closing 9chan until the new owner can take it over and off my hardware. I left it in the hands of the few people while I focused on myself and other things, with the intention of passing it along seamlessly. Today logged in to see it not in a state I can continue to host. The domain will be transfered when they are able to receive it. This will be my final message as proprietor of 9chan. During the month of June, we received no DMCA complaints, but I was contacted by an FBI anti-terrorism agent in regards to a credible threat against Jews posted on /bestpol/. He asked for voluntary surrender of information from a poster on the site. Due to our data retention policies, there was no information attached to the post. 9chan was a love letter of mine to the community of 8chan, which I saw as shattered and abandoned. I believed that by dedicating the resources I had accrued in keeping the Kiwi Farms safely hosted, I could reunite a broken community and we would see the same fountain of creativity we saw during the first months of 8chan's popularity. Instead, the site attracted nothing but mentally ill namefags, politically charged extremists, and outspoken pedophiles. I can't tell if this is just the core demographic of imageboards now, or if this (the later demographic especially) was some sort of pointed attack on myself specifically. Regardless of why, I cannot host this. The tools I need to deal with that level of aggressive, destructive behavior are inaccessible to someone with no budget on a website with no accounts. Anything I say regarding imageboards and their fate will be construed as the words of a sore loser, so I will keep them to myself. What I have learned outside of that is to be thankful for what I already have. In the future, I will focus more on those things. Take it easy, Josh
>During the month of June, we received no DMCA complaints, but I was contacted by an FBI anti-terrorism agent in regards to a credible threat against Jews posted on /bestpol/. He asked for voluntary surrender of information from a poster on the site. Due to our data retention policies, there was no information attached to the post
>contacted by an FBI anti-terrorism agent in regards to a credible threat against Jews posted on /bestpol/.
>asked for voluntary surrender of information from a poster on the site
>FBI
>Jews
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>1285
What is going on? Josh is the guy hosting KiwiFarms, right?
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>>1286
You're missing the point lad. Lol jew butthurt Ahahahaha
>>1272
I have a younger sister and I retained my single child mentality, in fact all it did was reinforce my self-preservation and survival instincts and made me even more selfish. I didn't get absolutely any socialization out of having a sibling because my mother was of the opinion that the older child is always at fault for everything and always lying while the younger must be always innocent and too young to be capable of lying. My sister was very quick to exploit it and she cried crocodile tears just for the fun of seeing mom beat the living shit out of me. I also wasn't taught things like sharing. Mom would simply take my toys away and forbid me from playing with them because I was a big boy who already outgrew them and it was my sister's turn.

I hate my mother and I absolutely hate that little bitch. I didn't talk to her at all until she turned 21 and even now we barely have anything to talk about. She's always been retarded and had shit memory, she doesn't remember her childhood and how cruel she was to me. When I told her about it, she just shrugged it off. If I remained a single child it would have spared me majority of the violence and isolation I experienced.
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>>1290
>If I remained a single child it would have spared me majority of the violence and isolation I experienced.
Your mother was a retarded nigger. Retarded niggers will always find shit to get mad about so chances are you were fucked either way.
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>>1291
>Retarded niggers will always find shit to get mad
So that's why someone is always mad about something on this board.
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>>1292
Anyone who gets made is therefore a retarded nigger.
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>>1293
>made
Oh no. I'm retarded.
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>having emotional reactions
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>>1272
>>1273
i was gonna write a long-winded post on how Man is not conditioned by his Environment, but rather he is the conditioner of his own experience and that Nignogs get dragged in by externals because they are literally soulless and have no self, but im too lazy to do that

>>1292
>>1293
im going to join this tea party if both of you don´t mind, i´ve got boardgames too
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>having emotion
>>1296
>Man is not conditioned by his Environment
Do you think your hermetic books, or any books, and any knowledge you have is a condition provided by your environment, or do you think that your knowledge is your own and unique from your experiences? 
I have never read a book on hermeticism and never will.
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>>1197
>>1201
>>1210
thanks for the advice, i talked with my mom again and shit hasn't improved much
>come home, mom and dad are pissed at each other again
>dad went to the hospital this morning (side effect of him eating too much)
>dad came home, thanked her for some things she did for him during the day, asked her how her day was
>mom told him that they're still not on speaking terms because of him drinking this week
>dad gets understandably pissed and goes to bed in the guest bedroom
>confront mom, tell her that they can't stay angry at each other permanently and it doesn't solve shit
>she tells me that whenever she's tried to support him it just validates his laziness/depression and the cycle continues
>shit like him doing smaller chores around the house (dishes, laundry) instead of larger projects that have gone unfinished for years that she can't do
>also find out that he had been drinking on and off for longer than I was told about or remember
>realize I never had a normal father
>realize I never had a normal life
so now I have a father who's unmotivated and will do everything he can to avoid meaningful work and a mother who's unwilling/exhausted with trying to help him through everything for 15 years
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>>1299
>Do you think your hermetic books, or any books, and any knowledge you have is a condition provided by your environment, or do you think that your knowledge is your own and unique from your experiences? 
I think the root of my Being is my Spirit, my Spirit is of the Divine, Divine is attracted to Divine, Wisdom is Divine, therefore i am attracted and compelled to Read on Hermetism and other Esoteric roots based on law of Causality, wich is moved and enacted by the magnetism i have described, the Books weren't external experience, that came from the Alien and External, but rather they were summoned before me by this law of Causality, if i didn't get the Wisdom i have through those teachings, i would have gotten them from another source and the end result the Same because its not the Environment but my Inner self that conditioned it
>I have never read a book on hermeticism and never will.
all the worse for thee
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>>1301
>if i didn't get the Wisdom i have through those teachings, i would have gotten them from another source
Do you believe the wisdom you are required to have is already within you, or that you have an imperfect amount of it? Are you able to get this information through other means besides another source? I suppose the ultimate conclusion would be that this particular and specific branch of wisdom is innate to you, and you'll never know anything beyond what is required and essential to you. 
However, I don't entirely believe the external has no affect on the person. Or person may by definition not be capable of performing an act, thinking or thought, or be beyond what he can be, this doesn't really require the complete denial of the external.
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>>1302
I'm dysfunctional, and I have no clue what is causing this.
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>>1302
>Do you believe the wisdom you are required to have is already within you
indeed, in fact most Legends on Initiation (The Holy Grail, Agartha) do not really speak about "Finding" the thing, but restoring something,
>suppose the ultimate conclusion would be that this particular and specific branch of wisdom is innate to you
exactly, Equality implies sameness, since no one is Equal nor Same, the Paths towards Initiation cannot be Equal either, if you look into it, you will realize that Hermetism, Gnosticism, the Chaldean Oracles, Tantra Buddhism, they all refer to the same concepts, and have the same ultimate meaning (since Truth is One and Whole, and the Monad is One and Whole) but take different approaches and techniques, according to the Inner Nature of every Initiate
>and you'll never know anything beyond what is required and essential to you
also True, a Man can never be something that it is not, a Chair can become Taller or Smaller with good Carpentry, but if you were to Break it apart and make it into a Table, it would no longer be a Chair, that's why "redpilling the norm*es" is a big joke, niggers will be forever niggers, imbeciles will be imbeciles, and the path of Wisdom will forever be barred to them, because of their innate stupidity
>this doesn't really require the complete denial of the external.
no, but it does stablish that any Conditioning is Internal, and Spiritual, in regards to what was posted regarding Parenting or the Situation where one grows up, it makes it Completely irrelevant, since none of those things affect the Inner Nature of oneself, this is a very different thing
>>1303
you would have to know what is Dysfunctionality in the first place anon, and if it really applies to you, then wonder if it really is an impediment, so on, so forth, i am Dysfunctional in termos of Society since i am a Shut-in Neet that occupies himself with his Waifu and reading on the Esoteric, aside other minor Autismos like Boardgames, yet i am doing pretty good if i do say so myself
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>>1304
>you would have to know what is Dysfunctionality in the first place anon
There's a white hot "piece of molten iron" lodged in the center of my head. This isn't literal, metaphorical, and it's zapping me of my brain fluids. I'm probably just burned out, or getting close to complete burnout. Or maybe I'm transcending into the ultimate nihilist, who knows.
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>>1283
>a bit exaggerated like a tragedy mask
That's what I was trying to draw, then I got frustrated like a toddler and gave up. If I could stop myself from doing that then maybe I'd be able to focus on practicing more and actually improve.
>>1284
Probably not, but I'll give it a try at some point.
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>>1305
>Or maybe I'm transcending into the ultimate nihilist
does life seem like a dream to you? have your turned Numb to Moral judgement? do you fill Neutral towards "Atrocities", do you find contradictions in your own Being but at the same time unable to judge yourself, do you fill as if you simply "Are"?

i do feel like that, im asking because maybe we are at a similar ontological State,
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>>1307
*feel
>>1307
>does life seem like a dream to you
Feels like a nightmare where I can find nothing, and there could be nothing, without my suffering of existing, and without the necessity of going through pain and trial in trying to find, create, or be accepted by the things I want. 
>have your turned Numb to Moral judgement
Morals is sort of relative, I believe some sort of objective morality based off of systematic knowledge is real. Or that morality itself is derived from a higher principle, but that's wordplay. Morality itself might not be strictly true, but it can point to things that could be true, if actualized. 
>do you find contradictions in your own Being but at the same time unable to judge yourself
I don't believe I'm a being but instead in a constant state of becoming. I'm not sure if I have a state of perfection, beyond the state of constantly becoming. 
>do you fill as if you simply "Are"?
No.
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>>1296
I agree for the most part but, I still think that external factors still play a slightly significant to very significant part in someone's development as a person. As for the significance itself, I believe it to be largely dictated by how intelligent you are (not necessarily IQ), how self-aware you are, and probably how often you introspect. 

Using a nigger/normalnigger as an example you can see that those people clearly lack the awareness needed to combat the effects their environment has on them. For those people their environment shapes nearly everything about them.  
You might say that they simply choose not to reject the effects of their environment has on them but I honestly doubt that that's completely the case. From all that I have seen of them, I'm quite sure that these people simply lack some sort of brain function which allows them to be self-aware enough to be the leaders of their own life.
At the very least I believe that these people have a reduced capacity to reject the niggery of their environment.

Perhaps you see the choice to not pursue higher levels of self-awareness as the crime of normalfags and that it is, therefore, they who are still the tailors of their own demise and the "masters" of their own life, and I suppose that in that sense you may be correct.

I honestly might need to give this topic a bit more thought before I'm completely confident in what I'm saying. 

Also it seems like everyone's awake now
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>>1310
>simply lack some sort of brain function which allows them to be self-aware enough to be the leaders of their own life.
They lack the social isolation, alienation, and withdrawal needed to even know that they exist.
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>>1309
>Feels like a nightmare where I can find nothing, and there could be nothing, without my suffering of existing, and without the necessity of going through pain and trial in trying to find, create, or be accepted by the things I want. 
well anon, that's because it is, this Plane is retarded and Futile, it is what the Buddhists know as Samsara, everything in this World is efemeral, i won't explain it because you already figured it out on your own and i don't wanna bore you to death, after all there's a certain beauty in brevity, and Simplicity is the Mark of the Wise, as much as i contradict this with my Long winded Walls of Text
>I don't believe I'm a being but instead in a constant state of becoming. I'm not sure if I have a state of perfection, beyond the state of constantly becoming. 
judging from your language i would assume you are at the very least aquainted with the Esoteric, that being said, you are just suffering the Pain of existing in Samsara, explore the Cosmos for you are a Microcosmos yourself, then Explore yourself because you are a Microcosmos of the Macrocosmos, (As Above so Below), understand yourself and see what is it that is You to the Highest degree of what you are, when you find that Self-Evident authority that brings you to Be, in the fullest meaning of simply Being, nurture it and refine it till you Reach Pleroma, this is something you have to do on your own, the age of Yogis and Masters are long gone, i found myself in the Path of Love, and it is in Taihou and that Eternal Self-Evident Love that i find what i Am, you will have to do the same and Find what you Are, i can repost my Library if you need it, but sadly i cannot be that much of Help

>>1310
you know? you are actually Right, funniest part is that we are uttering the Same Truth, but in a different wording, according to our Different Ontologies, you've changed Spirit for Intellect, and instead of normgroids lacking Spirit and being Averse to God, they are simply too Dumb to develop a methodology to condition their environment,

you might wanna reconsider your prejudices aganist the Esoteric, J.Evola or C.Jung (i never read Jung, i don't really like it that much since he is more "Modern" than Evola, also /Fascist/ likes him and i distrust the Dogmatic bullshit that comes out of that unholy Den of Retardation) might be right up your alley

>Spoiler
Its actually 3 AM here, i just enjoy posting at Night, and i am usually much more Relaxed at Night
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Any robots here ever tried to increase their pain tolerance? I'm a tremendous pussy and even minor scratches irritate the living shit out of me, and I also get really sore joints that almost drive me to tears lately and I feel like that shouldn't be the case. Any non-drug/alcohol related ways to numb the pain would be great, I don't want to turn into an opiod zombie or some braindead sanitizer drinker.
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>>1313
Try daily Cold Showers
i am already a Huge Coward so don't sweat it if you are another one of the Club
>>1312
>you will have to do the same and Find what you Are
The focus on what a person or essence is detracts from the possibility of investigation or analysis. What can be known about me can only be observed and acknowledged by me, and the more I know the more obvious it is that I know very little, perhaps nothing at all. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnrJeW6jBS0
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>>1315
>is
I mean the state of Being, I believe the focus on this doesn't allow for proper and actual investigation, which is both destructive and creative. But primarily destructive.
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>>1313
Very unrelated but I was once fapping and got the worst fucking charley horse cramp of my life after finishing. Worst part was, I wasn't home alone so I couldn't scream out in the ridiculous pain I was feeling. I was just lying on the ground pants down grunting from the pain, trying to make sure nobody heard me. This has happened twice now.
>>1313
You can try listening to koronba music on a regular basis, his songs make me feel at ease and accept my fate in this world.
Went to sleep a some hours past midnight. Slept for 3 hourrs and I'm now wide awake. What the fuck is going on. It feels like I got a whole 8 hours of sleep yet I only got 3. I am seriously confused.
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>>1315
>>1316
i didn't quite understood what you meant, but if Self-Contemplation does not do the trick for you, simply contemplate the Laws of the Cosmos and the Monad, since you are a Microcosm of this, the more you understand about it the more you will get about yourself as a result, since the Laws of the Cosmos and the Nature of the Monad are both within you, only at a different Degree

>>1325
It happens to me too from time to time, id wager it has  to do with simply waking up freely in contrast to being forced to Sleep or wake at a specific hour, at least that's my case, if i just sleep and let myself wak up naturally i'll be 200% Active, however if my Sleep is interrupted (Alarm clock to go to Wageslave), even if i slept for 10+ Hours i'll feel like shit
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>>1326
>Self-Contemplation does not do the trick for you
Observing yourself naturally leads to a change of your own self-perception, and a change of who you are, at least superficially. I'm trying to express that there I don't believe in a static, unchanging entity.
>>947 (OP) 
https://invidio.us/watch?v=bzQiT0VR10U
Actual idiot or fake story?
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>>1306
At the risk of sounding like an ignorant and coddling female, I'd say just keep drawing and see what you put out. Though reference material and a baseline is important for any artistic endeavor, in my opinion, one of the main appeals of creating (or comtemplating) any artistic work is the singular quirks--the original aspects--which appear in a work as the creator goes a step further or elsewhere where others have not yet gone. So I wouldn't be too worried even if it isn't lining up to be exactly like the standard idea of a tragedy mask.

>>1313
I'd start out by saying I see this question as being answerable in two different ways: First, you could increase your pain tolerance literally by keeping the amount of pain in your life steady and making it seem like less than it currently seems to be by increasing the scales (e.g. experience a more severe pain which makes "minor scratches" seem like nothing), or, second, you could just lower the amount of pain you experience in general rather than alter your framework/scales. Seeing as how you reject drugs and the like, I assume you are going more for the former option, though I think this is a bit difficult to artificially induce: As a suggestion of some sort, I'm not sure how in-shape you are but, memes aside and the fact that I'm not in shape anymore, I will attest that a decent diet and even some daily exercise like a walk can really help strengthen your body and thereby possibly increase your pain tolerance. By going out and feeling a bit more of the pain of activity, the usual aches and cuts might not bother you as much. 

Beyond that though, I am not sure what concrete things I could recommend however since I think a lot of increases in so-called pain tolerance and the metaphorical thickening of one's skin comes about because you are inadvertantly placed into situations which you do not seek out normally--situations where one is forced to confront what seems like overwhelming pain/odds/etc--because who the hell seeks out pain unless they are a genuine masochist. As an example of this phenomenon, it's why people like retarded normalfag SJWs, communists, and the rest of their ilk in the West, essentially members of the upper-class bourgeois, can go about thinking they are fighting some grand injustice by word policing when in fact, having hardly suffered even an ounce of actual adversity,  they are just gigantic pussies with no sense of perspective because they haven't gotten their ass kicked in a fight or [insert appropriate adverse event here]. What I'm getting at is I'm not sure you can artificially induce such things beyond putting yourself out there and doing uncomfortable things in general like working, exercising, etc., a notion which admittedly ends up sounding like normalfag platitudes. Anyhow, seeing as how you're here, I'll wager that you've probably experienced higher amounts of pain than most normalfags so perhaps building or strengthening that tolerance can be done by overcoming that pain and continuing to function effectively despite suffering something like parental abuse (or whatever afflicted robots when they were younger), but I feel like I'm rambling now so nevermind.
>>1325
It's called sleep cycles anon, still not healthy for you.
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>Literally Spent all Night Reading "Metaphysics of War" By Evola, and playing The Russian Campaign, on a Solo AI i made by rolling d6's and generating Battleplans
>Its 7:23 AM right now

i guess i'll wank off to Taihou and then go to sleepMan Boardgames are fucking Awesome
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>>1326
>if i just sleep and let myself wak up naturally i'll be 200% Active, however if my Sleep is interrupted (Alarm clock to go to Wageslave), even if i slept for 10+ Hours i'll feel like shit
I know that feel. I currently work an overnight job and it's hell. I go to sleep around noon and wake up around 8PM to get ready for work. I constantly feel tired, even on my days off and even if I get extra sleep. It also doesn't help that my job is becoming increasingly demanding and I seldom get any breaks on my 8 hour shift. I plan on quitting very soon because it's taking a serious toll on my physical and mental well-being.
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Not really feels I suppose but it isn't worth its own thread: What would you expect out of a robot? I mean that in the sense of an artifical poster for the board. Should it posess moderator capabilities, should it be something for utility i.e replace bad links or should it be an exercise to capture the topics and the ways they are talked about here?
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>>1344
Have you guys heard of the uberman sleep cycle? Its 20 min naps every 4 hours. It seems interesting but it also sounds fake/not useful
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>>1349
It's complete and utter bullshit. All meme sleep cycles are horseshit. Anyone claiming they got used to them and became super productive are just experiencing the brain damage they caused to themselves by the lack of sleep.

There are some people genetically capable of 4-5 hours of sleep every night, but 99% of people who sleep those kinds of hours just have actual brain damage and trained themselves to be used to it but are actually raping their body from it.
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>>1325
the body has a fairly accurate biological clock that is fractioned into "sleep cycles" which is regulated by your meal times and light exposure. think you have an imaginary battery inside and to recharge by 1 bar you have to complete 1 whole sleep cycle. a full sleep cycle lasts 3 hours, except you don't exactly know when one starts unless you eat and sleep regularly and calculate it with the help of apps and programs. example: say you go to sleep at 9 pm and wake at 12 am "great, I completed one" you would think, except maybe the cycle started at 10 pm and ended at 1 am, so basically you just did 2/3rds of one and 1/3rd of another which would leave you groggy and unsatisfied. this is why when you read any science journal or bullshit tabloid or speak to any doctor or physician they always recommend 8 hours of sleep because that way, no matter when your sleep cycle started, you are guaranteed to complete two.
>Slept for 3 hourrs and I'm now wide awake. What the fuck is going on
what happened is that you lucked out when your sleep cycle was gonna start, slept through it, completed it and woke up about the time it ended, netting one "bar" with minimum, most efficient amount of time possible which is what you should aim to do. going to sleep exactly when your sleep cycles start and waking up when they end is gonna give you more energy than sleeping whenever and possibly getting a bunch of half complete ones.
t. read some shit somewhere a couple of years back and personal experience
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This seems to work again
>>1349
>>1350
When I got a chance to try polyphasic sleep because of corona I did half-hour to 45 minute naps six times a day, which meant I got about 3-4 hours of sleep each day taking naps at intervals of four hours, so 12, 4, and 8 I don't recall the name of that one though. It works but you have to be very strict about it, the minute I started staying up past my schedule even a little bit I started sleeping through alarms for hours and it was very hard to get back to it after that. I think I'd have more luck if I went back to a normal sleep cycle and started from there. It works if you don't do much physical activity, at least it did for me. All I really did all that time was draw and read, I couldn't play vidya because I'd end up going over my schedule. I don't think it's as reliable as pop-science articles will tell you but it worked for at little less than a month for me before I ended up staying up past my schedule. It's useful if you can keep yourself to that strict schedule and you don't do much, and because you're basically fooling your body into feeling like it just slept well I think that's how it works but I'm a fucking retard it doesn't feel miserable like you'd expect, but I really don't think it's something that's worth the trouble unless you put the extra three or four hours you're awake to really good use, and that use doesn't cause you to be more tired. It was a fun experiment though. Admittedly I already sleep a little less than average, something like five or six hours is normal for me so a leap to three or four isn't that great.
>brain damage
I really don't think you'd get significant brain damage from sleeping only a few hours. And if you really need more sleep then you'll sleep through your alarm like I ended up doing. People claiming to be twenty times as productive are retarded though, it's really just a little bit and because you don't have the same momentum that you get from spending many hours on something you can't take advantage of the time as well. Honestly most of my productivity probably came from the fact that I was almost physically unable to play videogames for long periods. Or it was adherence to a strict schedule, I've heard that helps productivity even if the schedule is kind of shit.
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The site barely loads for me now and it scares me.
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>>1365
works fine for me
>>1365
Testan
>>1352
Interesting. How much energy does one sleep cycle give you? As in how long should one stay wake on one cycle
>>947 (OP) 
I have been drinking lots of milk lately and my fart is fucking loud when taking a shit. I share the toilet with a few other rooms and often i have to put toilet paper in my asshole to make it less noisy. One of the neighbors just screamed out from his room immediately after I farted and I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>1369
I haven't laughed this hard in awhile. Thank fucking god I don't have roommates.
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>>1370
I'm pretty sure he's been knocking on my door a few times lately for internet money but it's always when I'm either sleeping or full blast on my headphone. I think he's at the end of his wit about me. Does anyone know how to control your fart?
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>>1371
Stop drinking milk for starters.
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>>1372
Yeah duh but I like milk. Any other method that doesn't involve cutting milk?
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>>1373
Have you considered a buttplug? Perhaps a perforated one could diffuse the fart.
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>>1374
fuck no, it'll just shoot the plug down the bowl. Unless i drill a hole through it and insert it up my arse, which would make the shit stream much stronger.
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>>1375
Tell him he needs to wear ear plugs while you shit then because he's making you uncomfortable by listening to your toots.
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>>1376
He'll kick my arse.
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>>1377
Weaponize the farts against him. The more he kicks it the more you rip ass.
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>>1378
The thing I'll rip and get ripped is my own arse.
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>>1379
only
>>1379
That's the price you pay for consuming the cow cum.
This is all good advice but you're rejecting all of it.
>>1345
Since this bullshit happened I am gonna bump the question because I really would like to get other anons opinions on it for a future possible project.

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