Site-wide meta board >>>/z/
Sup nignogs, welcome back to /v/
1. ALL global rules apply, please read them at https://zchan.cc/rules.html
2. /v/ is a video game related board, keep your topics video game pertinent.
3. You must be 18+ to post.
4. Duplicate threads about the same topic will be locked and then deleted, check the catalog before making a new thread.
5. This is not a SFW board, NSFW content is allowed, just spoil it.
a. Effortless threads and template threads will be met with ridicule and may be bumplocked. Put some effort when making a new thread.
b. Some off topic discussion is allowed, use your common sense and and try not to fill an entire thread dedicated to an entirely different topic with it.
c. If you get reported multiple times across multiple threads and your post history comprises entirely of derailing, shitflinging, and generally not contributing to any of the threads you posted in, you will be banned and your post history may be wiped.
d. Rolling for dubs in shit threads is allowed; this however won't grant you a free "get out of jail" card. If you alone get a number of reports because of it and/or are caught shitting up seemingly fine threads, actions may be taken based on your post history.
e. No one likes attention whores: namefagging and/or avatarfagging for no practical reason is frowned upon. If you are caught doing either repeatedly you may be banned.
f. Ban lengths are entirely dependent on which and how many rules you broke. (eg: cheese pizza grants a global perma)
List of "special" threads currently allowed:
Allowed on Friday; bumplocked on Sunday; deleted somewhere later in the week so we don't have 4 of them littering the catalog by the end of the month.
Keep it vidya, if someone posts a couple of non vidya webms, refer to stipulation b. Also check this shit out >>88
>Draw threads and Japanese learning threads
For the latter, seen how this IB is not on the webring yet, we technically aren't "stealing" anyone's traffic, however I'd still appreciate if you could link our friends at anon.cafe/lang/ in the OP.
The rules regarding these have not changed: do not, and I repeat, DO NOT use these as meta threads. Do: filter, ignore and report derailment.
They are allowed but they must be kept in a single general, no exceptions.
Anything not mentioned in the list above is banned.
There is now a drama containment thread regarding the current situation of the webring here >>1451 use it. Please report any posts about these topics that are derailing other threads.
If needed I can also be contacted privately at this address: email@example.com
This will also double as a board meta thread, voice complaints, report issues, call jannies cocksuckers, keep drama OUT. And now, without further ceremonies, let's celebrate and suck some dvideo games.
I don't see anything there. You need to be concrete here with your answer, are you going to rulecuck like the mods did on julay, or are you going to let posters link lolicon? Obviously, I don't mean straight up porn
I'm not going to respost this for the nth time and specially since I'm sure everyone here migrated from other places, but please come check the gamenight we're planning.
>Do not post or link to media of real, underage persons.
Do they breathe?
>vidya music threads
same rules as the webm thread.
>general music threads
/v/ is for video games
The rules are clear, there's no rule against lolicon anywhere, the admin said so himself, and the only thing you have to worry about here is spoiling NSFW.
You are going to post for the nth time and you're gonna like it. I haven't lurked since April and have no clue about any game night, now be a good lad make a thread or bully.
Alright if anyone complains YOU gave me permission.
I'll remind you /v/ is not a fucking porn or loli-centric board, that said, don't go derailing threads dumping your collection, or I'll spank your bottom raw.
Julay admins said they would allow it, but they essentially stopped caring and were deleting it, anyways, because it was an "unspoken rule" or something that it was banned website wide(due to it being "child pornography", drawn or not). If you say "yes", that's good enough for me, is this a yes?
>/v/ is for video games
I meant that more as general vidya music threads (the ones with no specific theme other than "from vidya"), but I can see how the wording might be confused with asking about /mu/ content.
Is that a default? Do you have control of customizing it?
There you go >>135 go play the game.
I vote on pic related
also, since some other anon brought up julay cuckery, is posting tlou2 leaks allowed here, without the BO posting his farting fetish porn in the thread and locking it down for "lack of content"? in other words, is it "videogames" enough?
>is posting tlou2 leaks allowed here
Like on fatchan, there's no setting to change the spoiler pic, and if I have to edit the board css I dunno what to edit.
>is video games video games?
sounds like video games, that said don't turn it into a gamergate: electric boogaloo 2, the dumpsterfiring AKA don't bring meta shit and shitflinging about other boards into it.
>fart fetish BO
Who, Muses? Pics and archive or it didn't happen.
Forgot to reply to this >>107 post in the old meta.
>Also, do the same rules that applied to /gg/ threads on fat apply here as well?
The very same, I just reworded them a bit for clarity.
>Send anyone talking about Mark/drama/etc. to a cycnical meta thread?
Currently I've got no plans to have a designated drama/meta containment thread and I'd like to keep it that way. In the future, if the need arises, I might make one, add a temp rule and redirect fags to it or maybe just to /b/ instead.
Doing a check on the code with an inspector function, it would seem that the element class .spoilerimg has a property of "background-image" which cites "var(--spoiler-img)" as where it draws it pulls the spoiler from, with the file called stored at https://zchan.cc/file/spoiler.png. As I see it, either the file within that location would need to be changed, or a different location on the server would need to be specified (IE: something like "/file/spoiler_v.png"), but if the image to be used isn't on the server (in permanent form, no less), I assume it wouldn't be able to be routed to. If you don't have the ability to add things at that level, maybe ask the admin, or Tom (as the one working on jschan code) if they could add the function, or at least add the image of your choice to the file folder and route the code /v/ uses to it?
Is this really you, pastabro? I thought you got blackpilled like Tom when Fatchan died. How come you were hiding out here away from the webring?
Good to be back in the saddle. I have reworked a banner I had started for the old place for this one. And since with a leak of Yandere Simulator horrendous code getting decompiled and leaked, I finally have a special occasion for redoing this old creation of mine.
>>163 as >>167 eloquently points out, it looks like it's hosted server side, and indeed I have no access to that. I'll just ask the admin to add a custom pic for us, as for contacting Tom regarding software, I was thinking of making a github account, self-appointing as middleman and post issues and whatnot on JSchan's page, maybe I should just do that. I already asked the admin to make a thread or a board to talk about this kind of shit, so let's just wait for now.
Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?
>thought you got blackpilled like Tom when Fatchan died.
Took a month's worth prescription of them.
>How come you were hiding out here away from the webring?
I wasn't, I pulled the plug on imageboards for a while and didn't feel like using them anymore, that's all. Enough about myself, no cult of personality on this /v/, we are anomalous, expoct us.
You raging mongoloid, we have a banner thread right here >>109
>he reposted there too
you're half forgiven and you get half bullied.
Is it OK to funnel everyone back now or should we wait?
I really fucking hope that with jewlay's death it's all over
All up to how cucked our upstream is, and how nimble our sysops are at migrating the site to a new upstream if cuckouts occur.
I don't think there's much reason to wait, just don't be obnoxious about it. The board owner has expressed a dislike of shilling but people should at least know about it.
Speaking of vidya music, which sound/video formats are allowed here? I tried to upload a .ogg file without luck.
Feels good to have a site that loads in a blink and has best theme.
Get Bullied, Nerd!
Anyway, it's good to be back. Pastafag, you did a good job, handled the /gg/ threads well [[and as a poster on them, thank you for that. They were some of the cleanest /gg/ threads I was ever in since we didn't have Mork fucking up the thread. Thank you, seriously]] and the fact you don't namefag and understand the point of anonymous is great.
There a thread up on all the current bunkers on 8moe, and we've been mentioned. Better to get everyone we can back in here now than wait. Just don't try and spam though, we're not desperate like jewlay.
I FUCKING FORGOT WHICH BUTTON THESE SPOILERS WERE, FUCK
.opus audio files are also supported
Okey dokey. That leaves only smug, Animu and a well placed bomb on 8cunt.
The place is still around as sprqchan. The /v/ has been nuked by the Tengu twice in a row. I can't believe that heh-pilled 2hu autism of all defects did us such a favor.
So only .mp3 and .opus are supported?
Some others too, but I don't remember which ones exactly. However .flac and .wav isn't supported I think. But with the current 30MB limit, we could possibly ask the owner to enable them
No need to "funnel" people will come on their own, if they're interested. I looked around, there's plenty of talk already, both good and bad, just sit back and and relax. Do you want to look like a dipshit like acid?
Not a clue, better off asking the admin.
>haha you fucked up
>proceeds to fuck up
It's over anon, your goose is beyond cooked. I shall be declared victor of this bully fight. who's laughing now?
>The place is still around as sprqchan.
Yeah but it has become so barren compared to before, that autism storm really did a number on them, kinda upset I decided not to look at imageboards and managed to miss it all, also a shame it ended that way for them, quite a twist.
It's a good thing I kept pic related on me.
People will come naturally I think, once activity picks up and people learn this is fatchan's successor. But speaking of natural discovery,
How come this site isn't on the webring anyway? And also, this place gonna support board creation or is that too much shekel-drain given the site just started?
>Have you given much thought yet on how to best raise awareness to other lost fat/v/ anons?
I say let this sit grow on it's own, whoever wants to come will come, with shilling good posters stay the fuck away, because who the fuck wants to use a site with a userbase that shills it because they want it to be THE site.
> support board creation
Site owner isn't against it, but you probably need to ask him over at >>>/b/309
Man that shitstorm was fucking I was laughing like madman
fucking amazing* wow I can't write for shit
Also is there plans to be in the webring or not ?
In hindsight, something like this was predictable. Their /v/ had a huge hateboner for Goobagabbah and the website was ran by a circlejerk on Rizon. I haven't planned to shill as massively as Acid did. Just some mentions in relevant threads and that's it. Any plans of getting on the webring?
The most hilarious aspect was that they should have known what kind of person Tengu is on paper, because there was a massive thread on his old home board /intl/ that documented who they were, from where they came from and what kind of spasms they utter. I said on paper. In reality the userbase had been replaced by IBSfags and wignats who have overlooked such minor threads like the one on the enemies /cow/ has made on 8cunt.
Apparently he's talking about the webring in the /b/ meta at >>207
>Any plans of getting on the webring?
Just to be crystal clear
>yours truly != admin
with that out of the way he said this
>I wouldn't join the webring, I don't like that concept. And I realize bringing a big board like Fatchan's /v/ here would increase the attention for this site and also brings risks.
though maybe the matter can be negotiated, I don't know.
You forgot the whole message.
>I wouldn't join the webring, I don't like that concept. And I realize bringing a big board like Fatchan's /v/ here would increase the attention for this site and also brings risks. However /v/ is quite a tame board with no real added inherent risks so I think it could work. Having said that, I don't think they will actually move here.
>What I dislike most about the webring is that you have to go to every single website already on it and ask them one by one to accept your site onto their webring, which is ridiculous. Might as well just make a 'shill' thread on their sites.
Is also part of the message and this is just plain wrong so who knows if he would join up if he finds out how the webring actually works
The relevant post links, in case anyone's curious: >>>/b/347
You double posted just to get trips, admit it. But yeah, fair enough, that's why I said perhaps there's a chance of convincing him still.
The claims some of the anons there (and now at spkr) have been making in the aftermath of the sacking of Julay are also hilarious in their own right how utterly ridiculous they are.
Pure coincidence, I just wanted to fix my quote.
It keeps happening!
Whoever is the admin need to fucking promise to never make a /pol/ board analog no matter what.
I thought you got blackpilled and quit, what made you come back?
He has plenty of host alternatives on the ready, plus anons recommended him a few moldovan hosts that won't budge even if you hosted a CP site, so we're good. /pol/ should be safe.
>implying anyone from current /cow/ even remembers what /intl/ is
I don't remember well, but that's why Fatchan got shoah'd, right? It seems like a good reason not to have anything like /pol/ on this site, although probably the same could be said of allowing lolis, so I don't fully support that line of reasoning. If anything I wouldn't want /pol/ here since I would rather zchan be centered around vidya and other related boards like /agdg/, and I prefer the the idea of "one board (more or less) = one site" that's been floating around in the webring.
Also, I've been away for a couple weeks and just yesterday that I came back to check the state of this wasteland I saw that julay's /v/ was gone. It felt just like pick related.
Man, it's been 3 migrations in less than 2 months. This shit's pretty tiring.
JEWS and Homor do. But they don't have any power over how the site is ran. Just one staff account.
The problem with /pol/ is that it mutated into the root of all problems we had with our neighbors on 8cunt. Election tourists and Qfags came to the side through it and stuck around. Then varios feds came in and 2 killing sprees later the Goblin started his campaign and Loli ended up getting banned. The line of that Anon's resoning has more to do with meta than with limits.
the only reason fatchan got shoaed is because a jew by the name of (((esther))) is targeting all imageboards, and it doesn't matter if this site will, or won't, host /pol/ or lolicon, it will be hit regardless. While I can appreciate not wanting to get involved with the spergery or the posters this would attract(this comes from somebody who has browsed /pol/ for years, and is sorely missing 8/pol/), making an argument that it shouldn't be hosted because because it will attract less attention is retarded. People who hate imageboards, and want to take them down, don't need any reasons to take them down, if the domain holders are cucks, all it will take is a letter bluffing that it hosts CP, many domain sites won't look further into it, we all found out the first time
Personally, bringing over /pol/ would make the site more transparent, letting people know that unlike 8kun and julay, it isn't an overmoderated shithole that controls what opinions are and aren't allowed, but that is a big baggage, and hardly what the main concern should be
I will post pic related, because it is relevant. There was MASSIVE resistance to anything /pol/ related, to the point where someone made /pol/ only as a joke board, and we know where julay ended up because of it, the warning signs of leftypol infection and general spinelessnes of admins involved were there
Also, I should note that if /pol/ was ever hosted here, election tourism and Q faggotry should be banned on sight. I only want pre kampfy and Q nigger /pol/, that actually talked about politics and didn't dissolve into posting reddit tier infographs and "memes" to substitute for that. But again, as I said, that should not be a concern right now, just an input of mine
So anything related to Trump's inevitable victory this year would be banned then?
The worst part was that I fucking knew since december that board was crooked as hell, it took lolicon and TLoU2 to kill it.
I don't think any blanket discussion of trump should be banned, under the new theoretical /pol/, no. If you've ever been around retarded, die hard trump tards or met a Q "anon" before, you would be able to sniff one rightaway, same as with their leftist counterparts. If needed, maybe make a containment election thread, otherwise, delete any obvious shitflinging posts(they love to call you a leftist shill if you disagree with them, for example) or bad arguments based off flawed, or wrong information, it's not too much to ask. quality over quantity, I hope the same credo that this /v/ will also follow
Why are you here? And not nowhere like you said you'd be? Welcome back.
Did the admin try to make the logo look like 8kun's on purpose?
Because /pol/ is a cursed name and because Hoppe-sama is a better alternative for politic discussion.
>that's why Fatchan got shoah'd, right?
Yep. (((Eshter))) claimed a /pol/ board with less total posts than this /b/ was the new hideout of white extremists from 8chan, and the providers believed "her".
There's still quite a lot of meta going on, what with Julay/v/ being deleted again and people scrambling to put up webring sites before it ejects most of its boards and all, so it might end up being necessary.
There is already a board for horseshoe theory and other retarded ideologies, where they can be discussed. I believe they split away from julay at the first sign that it was going to "reboot", and the three boards(/liberty/, /monarch/, and /fascism/) are active on the same site. A general blanket /pol/ would be better for the reasons I provided above
>esther claimed a /pol/ board was the new hideout for the bad men
if your host owner is that retarded, that they will believe one letter like this, without further looking into the matter, they will pull the plug at the drop of the hat, over any menial bullshit. /pol/ isn't the problem here, stop thinking that if you fold and be a good goy, they will go any easier on you
lol, people are hilarious, when they forget Robi is PastaBO
>dude, trust me! PastaBO was Robi all along!
No matter what you do Mark, your shitty board will turn into a barren desert once anons come back to their true home, Zchan. Just blow your brains out before that happens so you may save yourself some tears.
Just like tengu was mark, right?
And don't forget how Jim and Ron run the webring!
>/cow/ards are this retarded
Go on, accuse me of being a pedophile or a ni/gg/er next.
Plot twist: moot is Mark, Jim, Ron, Tengu, Pasta, the meidos, loleron, and (You). He created multiple image boards in the hopes of having a /v/ that can talk about video games for once, and controls them from his office at Google HQ
>falseflagging this hard
back to jewlay /cow/tard
>Do they breathe?
Pretty sure it's still CP if they're dead bodies.
There a way to contact the site admin?
And actually if you want to get into it that's fairly ambiguous. Wouldn't a song on youtube by an underage singer techically fall under that? I mean it's obvious what it means (no Dost and so on) but still.
By example, apparently. https://zchan.cc/faq.html#contact
He's in the /b/ meta right now, but there isn't a dedicated /meta/ or anything.
I told you that you’re here forever spaghetti.
Also I'll admit to having missed out on fat/v/ the first time around, anything I should know? On a scale of smug/vg/ to /b/-with-vidya what's the moderation like? I was under the impression somewhere between the two. Other than the fact that spoiler markup appears to be different here which means years of valuable muscle memory down the drain.
The rules are in the OP, just read them.
The only hotpocketing I remember from fat/v/ was meta outside the meta thread, Acid for avatarfagging with Asuka and cleaning up spam. Pretty much what you see in the rules is what you get. Not sure if sturgeon and seagull from fat/v/ will be doing it for free over here too though or if it’s just our Italian friend.
Got it. Sounds pretty decent to me.
What are the chances this place doesn't end up getting killed or the admin being into some other insidious stuff like the rest of imageboards?
fatpeople was clean
and what if /v/ becomes /pol/?
Then we keep it hush hush and refrain from falling for /pol/fedposting gay ops like NORMAL /pol/ - /v/ crossposters.
Pastbro is... is that really you?
Fuck me you can't delete posts yet.
Yes you can.
Posts will stay up for bullying purposes
Stop lying. I have heard Robi's voice and know for a fact that he his a burger occultist and not a Wop.
Is that really you pasta negro?
You're not some undercover 8cult, ni/gg/ers, ni/gg/ers revolt, /cow/tard, /2hu/sperg, markgoons, goons, dolphin fucker, altchan feds, discord trannies, /animu/cabal, smug trannies, simp, guntguard, PPPism cult, etc, etc?
Can i finally make new banner in peace?
Don't forget, you're here forever.
pastanigger is allegedly back and people are still posting on the cakejew /v/
The kind of people filling /gg/ generals one after another are still posting in there.
Wait until Mark has a shitfit again.
When I asked, people said they're tired of moving around with all the chaos from Fatchan and Julay, and don't want to leave a site again.
That's perhaps understandable for the next week or so while things settle down. Anyone who holds that view after the dust has settled on this latest wave of drama isn't worth bothering with.
On one hand keeping it low may lead to the board dying on the other hand telling people to go here may attract the absolute cancer that want to take over userbase by any mean necessary like the two previous hit job.
That was hotpocket autism
I'm not too sure about it.
I don't trust that avatarfaging tengu, at least those dumpster fire bring pasta bro back in business.
This site owner and this BO haven't been truly tested yet, while Markchan is a leaky boat at least it's been proven to float.
Yeah I don't blame you. He just wanted to start the fire, not create anything better.
Nope, it's confirmed he's the real one. I have talked to him on Tox and he also responds on his emails. Pastabro is back.
You the same vol who help him back on fat/v/?
Yup. I'm seagull, but unfortunately we're missing the 2nd one, sturgeon. He hasn't responded in emails or tox yet. I only saw him once lurk around smug/vg/
I'll explain real soon, it's a work in progress.
>You're not some undercover 8cult, ni/gg/ers, ni/gg/ers revolt, /cow/tard, /2hu/sperg, markgoons, goons, dolphin fucker, altchan feds, discord trannies, /animu/cabal, smug trannies, simp, guntguard, PPPism cult, etc, etc?
I'm all of those and more, I'm also a skinwalker, Moot, Hotwheels, Mark, Jim Watkins and finally Robi see >>261 In short, pic related.
This is also me IP hopping
Getting the old crowd together may take a while. With Jewlay denb and the nuclear garbage from /jp/ seperated in the tengureich, we may have a comfy start.
are we even part of the webring anymore?
>a comfy start
>I am a dumb nigger and cannot, for the life of me, read anything besides a KFC menu.
>the OP says something about the webring
Oh shit, I'm retarded. Thanks for pointing it out, anon. My attention span is limited these days
From what I saw it was a mixture of both. Plenty groups around waiting for a chance to jump on useful drama.
Since you were Fat/v/'s BO, I have a question for you. Did the owner have a backup of Fatchan before it went down? And if he does, is it possible for the content from there to be migrated?
I'm asking this since I've been archiving threads on 8chan/8kun and the bunkers for over 2 years and the only thread I archived on Fat/v/ was this FFVIIR thread early in the site's life:
No idea, I was never in direct contact with Tom then nor now. Your best bet is asking him directly on github since I've yet to do that myself.
Listen italian, I appreciate that you gave us the chance to archive https://archive.ph/le5p7 and prove that moe/v/'s BO(897df6) is scum of the earth, but I have a question.
If someone like that appears in the a gamergate thread here, he's going to become pasta this time, capiche?
Jesus fuck, how did I not catch that while I was in the thread? I'm going to set up a new /gg/ thread here. Expect Mark to samefag.
Am I missing something here? That archive is a whole thread to dig through and those caps with Mark's ID aren't from that thread as the ID is not present there. What are you guys talking about?
>I'm going to set up a new /gg/ thread here.
Probably going to be shitposted to death for being "a D&C shill thread".
I don't understand the caps at >>394 either. I think he's pointing to a samefag in a different thread.
Just accept it/have pastaBO and his cohorts deal with it.
Report all thread derailment and it will be dealt with
Sorry, it posted before I put all the caps in. It's Mark trying to make himself look good in the PLW /gg/ thread after his sperg out and mass banning when he owned fatchan /v/ before the wop did. He forgot to switch IPs and was called out, which led to him deleting the thread as well. More or less confirmed that he astroturfs/samefags /v/ in order to make it look like he has more supporters than he really does.
Don't forget him denying doing it and then reluctantly admitting to it once the evidence is irrefutable lol
For now, I'll believe you but I'm not 100% convinced yet. We'll see how this place goes. So far so good.
Also I was worried because posting died down a lot but I guess that was because it was burgerland night hours
That 897df6 post sure is obvious, in his last post he clearly too lazy to hide his identity.
Now we're talking, you forget to post the jewsiest one.
I fucking KNEW he was astroturfing the /gg/ threads. He need to get it through his thick skull that it's not his personally fucking army and that we're just as sick of his shit as everyone else.
As requested in the goober thread I bring my asshurt here.
Can goober threads be removed for good?
There is absolutely no value in having them here.
>There is absolutely no value in having them here.
Explain why, but without resorting to talking about gamergate threads under Mark/Acid.
GamerGate is dead and has been for years.
The threads serve as nothing but a gathering point to shitpost for 750 posts and shit out a new thread.
Rather than desperately cling to GG and NYS and all the other gay as fuck hashtags, it could be transformed into an actual video games news thread/general/cyclical.
>but without resorting to talking about gamergate threads under Mark/Acid.
>The threads serve as nothing but a gathering point to shitpost for 750 posts and shit out a new thread.
Do not be so blind. Why do you think all the shilling stopped and I mean actual shills after the thread became "nothing but shitposting to 750"?
Not him but if you want to look at it strategically removing the gamergate baggage could be a good start in avoiding drama with not just mark but also the webring.
You know after hatechan die i start to pay attention to drama shit and one thing people who engage in it love the most is name calling, without gg thread this /v/ can at least be free from that.
And also this >>441 change it to vidya news/general discussion or something so other anon who somewhat repulsed by the usual gg circlejerck can actually join the discussion.
But honestly i don't really mind gg thread here if they are properly jannied like on fat/v/.
GamerGate is still being mentioned in news articles and lives RENT FREE in leftist minds like (You). It's never going to die as long as bad actors in game dev exists.
>all the shilling stopped
You had the same 20-30ish people frequent this one thread and do absolutely nothing for the board itself.
It's being mentioned because it is dead and impotent enough to not fight back in any noticeable manner.
It's like blaming a corpse because you know it won't argue back nor will anybody argue for the corpse.
>You had the same 20-30ish people frequent this one thread and do absolutely nothing for the board itself.
Did Mark leak their post histories to tell you that?
Listen, I already told you.
>Explain why, but without resorting to talking about gamergate threads under Mark/Acid.
Spoilers: There was nothing wrong with gamergate while it was digging for information.
>Did Mark leak their post histories to tell you that?
Why would I need those if next to every "anon" had their own special name like gook anon, marche, the galko autist, (((acid))).
>There was nothing wrong with gamergate while it was digging for information.
There was nothing wrong with GG when it did those things anonymously.
What is left is the people desperate to keep the name alive for no reason other than themselves.
I'm all for digging and angry emails, but do it as anons.
>Double check the gamergate thread
>No names or avatars to be seen
Well I'm sold, guess we should pre-emptively ban gamergate so nothing bad happens.
One more reason to get it away from acid, mork and all the other namefags.
Getting it away from them is all fine and dandy, but you might as well drop the name and let it become a thread like any other.
Why exactly is the association with a dead hashtag that failed such a priority that you have to make these threads on every single site.
Years of ecelebs funded by jewish thinktanks telling them that they need to stop using the hashtag for specious reasons.
These are pretty damning. Do you have an archive of the PLW thread? I'm not seeing one here, but this video says there's an archive of it. >>422
>the only thread I archived on Fat/v/ was this FFVIIR thread early in the site's life:
I have an html file of the thread when it was at 105 replies after the site went down. I made that thread myself.
>I didn't want to be an attentionwhore about it
>I only wanted to correct him while pretending not to be me, it's totally not samefagging
>I only did it just once recently
>[on minute later]
>I don't do it that often
>I barely samefag
>I don't samefag 'at all'
I really hope GG here picks up steam.
Then drop the tag and keep doing the legwork.
Why make it even easier for them to locate the origin of what is causing them such asshurt.
It's not the name doing the digging but you fags.
Let them keep pointing their fingers at this corpse while you're already steps ahead of them acting without any names to associate you with.
Does anyone by chance have a cap of the post I made about gamergate back on fat/v/? I used pic related in it.
The premise of it was that: no GG threads won't be banned and I've got no plans to ban them in the near future; no, they won't get any privileges and or favors whatsoever; no, there won't be 500 posts of circlejerking, name/avatarfagging and meta shitstirring. If you want to use them a game news thread, that's up to you, not me. If you want to change the name or keep it, that's up to you, not to me. If you don't like them, you have handy tools to hide them from your sight never to be seen again.
And to the anons posting in them, from your thread OP:
>•STOP REPLYING TO BAITS AND OBVIOUS DERAILMENT ATTEMPTS, JUST REPORT AND FILTER
If you're going to drop the name then you'd be better to just have threads as and when they're needed instead. If something happens involving SJWs in the industry make a thread for it, if there's a specific case that needs digging make a thread for that too. If you have a general that's up 24/7 as the GG thread has been in the past it will just naturally drift into off-topic discussion and identityfagging because that's what happens when you've got a continuous thread regardless of the subject. That or fags have to resort to screencaps of twitter nobodies because the topic has otherwise been talked to death. Both of these would happen whether or not you put the GG name on the thread it's just that the name additionally brings along with it over half a decade's worth of history and drama.
>a dead hashtag that failed
Dead perhaps, I wouldn't say it failed. The original goal was more or less achieved as far as it can be without literally overthrowing the government and lining journalists up against the wall. It opened the eyes of plenty of those closer to the normalfag end of society and showed plenty of fags, including many rank and file devs, that they were in fact the silent majority anyone smart knew that already but plenty of others were demoralised and isolated. I mean maybe that's not in line with what some fags had in mind but it's enough that we've seen many AAA projects start to lose revenue and others move away from blatant SJW pandering as a result.
That's pretty fair all considered, at least if the part about not getting special treatment is actually followed. The problem is really just the same as how any general will turn into a circle jerk if it's instantly remade when it hits the limit.
>The original goal was more or less achieved as far as it can be without literally overthrowing the government and lining journalists up against the wall
Though I will add that this doesn't mean there isn't a need for continued diligence. Just that I think that's pretty easily achieved by simply making threads as and when they're needed regardless of what name you do or don't attach to them.
I don't disagree with the idea of making a thread when it's needed rather than have one up 24/7.
Personally, I would drop the name(s) entirely. As you suggested it brings with it some history, but also a load of drama that's not worth having to deal with each and every thread.
As for its goal, that really depends how optimistic you want to be about the current state of affairs. I for one think it failed and failed hard because it let go of what it was meant to do and just focused on being defensive about its image instead. The main reason I believe the name should be done away with is to avoid this same mistake from ever happening again.
What gamergate failed to do was to entice the entire site to fitgh with them and instead holed up in their containment and brushed off all and any criticism because a certain somebody kept giving them special treatment because they drove up his PPH.
Rather than continue this behavior, I'd say we move forward as one board and not as one thread.
We already have a name and that is Anon.
>army and that we're just as sick of his shit as everyone else.
Seems like a bunch of anons don't feel that way though. I have to wonder though how many of those anons were actually Mark "barely" samefagging.
Aw fucking hell. I have to get used to Fat's formatting again.
>You had the same 20-30ish people frequent this one thread and do absolutely nothing for the board itself.
I made a thread and posted actively in it. I'm using one other zchan thread than this and GG right now. Ni/gg/er and proud. :^)
>There was nothing wrong with gamergate while it was digging for information.
No digging is done nearly as hard as it used to, but GG threads still collect a lot of archives of vidya articles and tangential vidya articles that don't deserve their own threads and would be lost and ignored by anons as a whole. There is the occasional minor dig every now and then.
>I'm all for digging and angry emails, but do it as anons.
See the above reply for my argument on that point.
>If something happens involving SJWs in the industry make a thread for it, if there's a specific case that needs digging make a thread for that too.
Not everything is big enough to deserve a thread, and much would be lost because of this. Especially since rags never stop slyly editing their articles without disclosure when half-caught pushing BS.
>The problem is really just the same as how any general will turn into a circle jerk if it's instantly remade when it hits the limit.
What limit? Bump limit or post limit? Not sure if new fat has bump limits properly implemented yet. If it hit or neared the post limit it obviously needs a new thread because things are still being discussed. New threads should never be made just for hitting the bump limit. I think it becoming a circlejerk has more to do with Mark treating the threads as his own personal garden where massively offtopic shit and meta was allowed. Also ignoring meta threads while responding to or at least watching and taking into consideration, all meta.
If it really bothers you though, GG threads could probably easily add a personal self enforced rule that when making a new thread you have to post at least one new vidya news thing that wasn't already posted in the last thread.
>I mean maybe that's not in line with what some fags had in mind but it's enough that we've seen many AAA projects start to lose revenue and others move away from blatant SJW pandering as a result.
I don't believe GG "failed", but to play devil's advocate, you could say that this is a result of normalfags naturally getting tired of SJW shit in the media that would have happened with or without a "movement" like GG.
>Personally, I would drop the name(s) entirely. As you suggested it brings with it some history, but also a load of drama that's not worth having to deal with each and every thread.
Like >>459 said, various ecelebs and aGGros have been pushing for ages to drop first NYS and later GG under false pretenses in order to gain control of "what is GG" and pull it away from imageboards. So any suggestion of doing so is naturally met with great suspicion.
>I'd say we move forward as one board and not as one thread.
>We already have a name and that is Anon.
I don't disagree with the sentiment, but again, you won't get the board as a whole doing what you say without a scandal for momentum like what sparked GG. It would mean a lot of shit would slip through the cracks.
Then why don't (You) make that alternative GG-without-GG-name newsthread and outcompete the old institution? BO repeatedly stated he won't ban them. Make an alternative and if it gets accepted by the board population, you get what (You) state to want. Who knows, might even get accepted by GG anons as the thread to post in if it produces effective ops.
>I'll explain real soon, it's a work in progress.
I'll hold you to this, spaghettit nigger.
But without ending the GG threads first, wouldn't that be dupe thread, as there would then be two general vidya news threads?
To be fair, GG tried to rely on ecelebs too much at the beginning.
So much so that it allowed those same faggots to milk GG for money and lead them away from the actual focus of GG.
Later you had shit like Kekistan pop up and naturally that was being associated with GG as Sargoon was involved.
Personally I give not a single shit anymore what any eceleb says.
In their feeble minds, no more GG probably means no more anons doing digging which is just retarded.
We know what has happened throughout the years and we are still here. I see no point to forever stay in this defensive stance about trying to protect the good name of GamerGate in the eyes of people with attention spans of <5 minutes. That is wasted time to me personally.
Seeing as this is not supposed to be a commercial movement, it does not need a brand, a name or title. All it needs is participants of the same mindset.
That is a good enough point. If BO is fine with that and it won't get baleeted for "duplicate thread lel" I would very much like to discuss what that thread should look like and work it out and then have a little test run.
The OP especially should be a lot more compact and could instead have the GG thread's OP resources posted in a pastebin for posterity's sake.
>and could instead have the GG thread's OP resources posted in a pastebin for posterity's sake.
This is a key issue. Even if successful alt thread goes through it would lose a lot just by not having the OP or at least most of it. There's also the issue regardless of whether the name is dropped of the split from the still very strong Markchan GG threads. What to do about the offical OP when they both draw from GG wiki and gitgud.
That kind of language gives me Reeeeevolt Nam flashbacks anon, let's call it a fork and plan for friendly competition who's the better defender of vidya today and tomorrow.
>As for its goal, that really depends how optimistic you want to be about the current state of affairs. I for one think it failed and failed hard because it let go of what it was meant to do and just focused on being defensive about its image instead. The main reason I believe the name should be done away with is to avoid this same mistake from ever happening again.
I prefer to view it as two distinct stages with the first one achieving the limited goals it could and then a later continuation that's mostly devolved into drama further and further each year. You can argue that adopting a non-anonymous name and trying to organise into a movement is what represents the distinction but that's not really in line with the history. It is however what resulted in the slide into drama.
>Not everything is big enough to deserve a thread, and much would be lost because of this.
If it's not big enough to have a thread it's usually pointless drama that's not worth talking about. If it's a specific operation or goal then have a thread with that goal stated up front so there's a defined end point and not a continuous circle jerk.
>Especially since rags never stop slyly editing their articles without disclosure when half-caught pushing BS.
This one is hard to handle with distinct threads I'll agree.
>No digging is done nearly as hard as it used to, but GG threads still collect a lot of archives of vidya articles and tangential vidya articles that don't deserve their own threads and would be lost and ignored by anons as a whole. There is the occasional minor dig every now and then.
Ditto here: better to have threads that have defined goals for digging or even just semi-regular threads for that purpose not a continuous thread that's mostly identityfagging that occasionally gets something done.
>What limit? Bump limit or post limit? Not sure if new fat has bump limits properly implemented yet.
Both but obviously bump limit is far worse.
>If it hit or neared the post limit it obviously needs a new thread because things are still being discussed
If it hit that limit because of actual on topic discussion sure. But that's not what has happened in the past.
>I think it becoming a circlejerk has more to do with Mark treating the threads as his own personal garden where massively offtopic shit and meta was allowed.
That's a fair point. If there's the discipline to truly enforce that the posts must be strictly on topic it might improve things.
>If it really bothers you though, GG threads could probably easily add a personal self enforced rule that when making a new thread you have to post at least one new vidya news thing that wasn't already posted in the last thread.
Also a decent idea, as long as it was followed properly (good article, OP has some details and subjects for discussion in it and so on). It could even be loosened to also accepting things like 'this thread we're going to focus on digging into x'. The problem is you can end up with shit like when 8/v/ used to have threads that would have an OP that pretended to be about vidya but the entire content within the thread ignored it and posted about whatever else instead. So in this case you could end up with it just being the normal circle jerk but someone has to go archive a news article before posting the thread and then everyone ignores it anyway.
>I don't believe GG "failed", but to play devil's advocate, you could say that this is a result of normalfags naturally getting tired of SJW shit in the media that would have happened with or without a "movement" like GG.
They only got tired of it because it was brought to their attention. I mean I'm sure there was a baseline discontent with it but having them pointed at what specifically is the issue helped focus their mind on the SJW shit being the problem rather than just complaining 'EA can't make good games'.
Where did this even come from? When was it made? I'm confused.
dude its not because of leftists, its because its twitter drama that connected imageboard anons to social media normalfags. You fuckers stared at the abyss and blinked and now you are innundated with normalfag garbage in your heads. If you're going to have a GG atleast figure out who is funding all these kikes and digra.
>If it's not big enough to have a thread it's usually pointless drama that's not worth talking about.
There is a difference between random twitter trannies and actual articles that deserve archival and acknowledgement, but clearly aren't enough to build a thread off of.
>but someone has to go archive a news article before posting the thread
I'd still say that's better than no requirement.
What is "this"? Reply to someone so anons know if you're talking about this site as a whole or the current discussion in this thread.
This as in the whole site.
>an actual video games news thread/general/cyclica
I like the idea.
>Like >>459 said, various ecelebs and aGGros have been pushing for ages to drop first NYS and later GG under false pretenses in order to gain control of "what is GG" and pull it away from imageboards. So any suggestion of doing so is naturally met with great suspicion.
That's really much of a muchness with NYS/GG being under the control of a few circle jerks themselves. Granted circle jerks that exist on imageboards but it's still something centralised.
This would not work as the current GG thread, by which I mean that which has functioned on the various /v/ boards Mark has been in charge of rather than any of the alternative versions mentioned here, is largely about off-topic circle jerking and identityfaggotry. Producing an alternative that focuses purely on actions and specific topics wouldn't compete with it because it does not provide the same thing at all. It would, on the other hand, compete with a GG thread that was as >>472 describes though in that case it wouldn't be necessary anyway.
Or to come at this from another angle you can look at 8/v/'s history where the GG thread itself existed and despite its existence any major bit of news had to get its own thread anyway because the vast majority of the userbase never looked at the GG thread.
Was there not some reason to avoid using pastebin specifically? I know some anons favoured ghostbin instead when it was still around.
>There is a difference between random twitter trannies and actual articles that deserve archival and acknowledgement, but clearly aren't enough to build a thread off of.
Archival for sure, I don't know what acknowledgement gets you on a board where everyone is already in agreement SJWs are a problem.
>I'd still say that's better than no requirement.
On paper yes, but if all it does is give cover to a shitty thread by letting it point to the OP it's counter productive. I'm definitely up for seeing it tried though. You could easily combine this with your previous point and have e.g. one OP that posts archives of, obviously a bunch of more minor articles along a similar theme with some discussion points tying them together and then when there's an obvious need the next thread's OP can cover a specific target for digging or goal to be achieved, resources for that and so on. I think the current GG OP might on paper have a space for recent events like this but that's really not the same thing. That way each thread has a distinct topic rather than falling into the patterns of the past and when there's nothing happening there's naturally nothing to populate an OP with so fags have to go find something worthwhile instead of shitposting about footfaggotry or whatever while they wait. As a bonus you could pick any archived thread, read the OP and easily see what relevant shit had happened around that date.
Funnily that suggestion seems to show up for every /v/ alternative that's happened in the last ~4 years.
The 4,000 character limit is annoying. Any possibility of it being increased?
>I think the current GG OP might on paper have a space for recent events like this but that's really not the same thing.
In fact it's about 75% that and I obviously just mentally skip over it. In my defence from pretty much every GG thread I've seen so does everyone else not uncommon to see almost no replies to the OP after 700 posts and fags just continuing on other conversations entirely and some of it is months/years old despite the fact that on mark/v/ they appear to have multiple threads a day. There's a difference between a monolithic list of links and posting some that will actually generate discussion/specific action.
>Not sure if new fat has bump limits properly implemented yet.
It does. Before the fat/v/ board owner took over it was set to a reply limit of 500 and bump limit of 450, so ongoing threads could make a new thread after 450 without the old one still being bumpable. I don't know if he's thinking of changing it.
>The 4,000 character limit is annoying. Any possibility of it being increased?
The board owner can set the limit but apparently 4000 is currently the site-wide maximum. It's probably just some default that they need to ask the site owner to change, Fatchan had it higher.
In fact just to make my point on the GG OP the newest article in the Ongoing Discussions section is from the 20th of April the rest are older going back to January but I'll take the latest. If we assume the GG threads on the various boards share an OP and userbase (broadly true) and get through a combined total of ~500 posts a day which is probably a wild underestimate that means there have been 500 * 27 = 13,500 posts since it was last updated. The oldest article in there is from January and the current tasks are generally a few years out of date. Replacing it with concise, regularly updated OPs for each new thread would be a major improvement and would hopefully entice anons who don't normally use the thread to contribute and existing anons to actually stick to the topics at hand. Also as said if it had to be regularly updated someone would actually have to go find shit to update it with so it naturally encourages a bit of digging.
>The board owner can set the limit but apparently 4000 is currently the site-wide maximum. It's probably just some default that they need to ask the site owner to change, Fatchan had it higher.
As long as it's technically possible. 4,000 characters sounds like a lot but it's actually only a few hundred words once you include spaces and punctuation. Maybe 40-50 sentences at most.
>any major bit of news had to get its own thread anyway
Of course. You wouldn't want one thing happening drown out all other news that could coincidence or not be happening at the same time, therefore, dedicated thread to free up the general news.
>vast majority never posted in the GG thread
General knowledge of happenings across /v/ tracks with knowledge inside GG, it's also regularly treated as a knowledge base when anons have been busy for a while and want to catch up.
Cancer and cancer sitting in a tree kissing. Now I know why Julay was hated and is now dead.
That's because the OP of the Zchan thread copy-pasted an old version instead of copy-pasting the version on the wiki or the version on the 8chan thread. The main text is a bit old too. In fact, it looks like they literally copied it from the last thread on Fatchan and then deleted some of the news regarding Fatchan. For some reason when the thread was first moving to Fatchan someone made a pastebin for a new OP so maybe they used that instead of the up-to-date wiki version.
The most recent news in the wiki version is "Sony DMCAs 8chan.se", which is 4 days old. It has also been updated less than usual because of the focus on the meta situation. That said, you are right that the ongoing discussions is almost always out of date and incomplete, it is kept because it's considered better than not having it at all. The OP used to not have that section, after all. Keeping track of everything still requires reading the thread, but of course you can make threads about specific subjects as seems appropriate.
>Replacing it with concise, regularly updated OPs for each new thread would be a major improvement
You are of course free to do the work of regularly editing "Ongoing Discussions" on the wiki yourself, assuming you have a sufficiently good grasp of the sort of thing that goes in there. Or suggest additions so maybe someone else adds them. Or make a separate thread from GG or a blog or a wiki where you compile and list relevant news. But if you expect someone else to do the work, bear in mind ideas are plentiful and workers are in short supply.
Original OP here, I had to delete some text to fit the word limit, so I choose the stuff about 8moe so I could keep the spaces between the different sections of the OP to keep the formatting neat. Do you want me to delete it and try again with the 8moe news added?
No, don't delete a thread over the OP once it has replies. It's not a big deal, anyone in that thread has probably seen the 8chan one anyway.
>Do you have an archive of the PLW thread?
Might be in here.
That's it. Danke.
That's the thread, but I'm not sure if it was archived when mark was sperging out. Is their a version of it archived at a later date? Or of the GG thread made after he deleted that one?
Found the archive of the second thread.
There weren't many threads that got archived before the board was culled. That first thread there has the most chronological snapshots, so you might check the other two of them.
I have a screencap of Mark's fatchan /v/ thread. You can see him start to sperg out when an anon gets confused by these screenshots. Sorry I don't have the full thing.
Here's the full post that made him go on the mass banning spree for some more for context. He could've just answered the question instead of banning the guy
MORE BIDEOGAME POSTING
Is the Attack on Titan fangame dead? How does one play it online now?
OH yeah I remember that. It looked kinda fun.
Fucking hell, we can post shit that big?
Can this really become fatchan 2.0.? I think most people who liked or idolized fatchan either won't find this board, or are fucking tired of everything and won't come back here. I'm starting to get a bit blackpilled with all of these migrations.
Many have already returned anon, don't give up hope!
Of course. Also,
size limit is 30MB
I kinda am too and I'm sorta comfy on /geimu/ but I'll post on both now that I heard this was a thing. There are almost 100 users here, thats what it was back on fat. Make the threads and they will come.
I liked fatchan and enjoyed my time there, so I'm one more anon that's come back. Also, it didn't take me more than 10 minutes to find this place. Once I found out that julay/v/ had gone to poop I immediately went to 8chan.moe and lurked for a short time and spotted a handful of people talking about this place, so if anyone as retarded as me can find his way back, even as I spent weeks not paying attention to what was happening, I don't think any mildly-invested anon would have any problems finding zyklonchan.
I'm liking this
Well, I'm here.
>the truth about them is out
>anons calling out their pilpul
>/tikilounge/ is BACK
I have faith again /v/, I have faith again
I wasn't big on julays culture. I mean I kinda feel bad their board was crashed with no survivors.
OH yeah speaking of sites who owns this one?
>I wasn't big on julays culture.
boy imagine being big in a culture like that
Holy shit, that's genius
Was that what that russian bullshit meant? Was it a wordfilter?
Yes. It filtered "gunt" to Russian for "gunt".
the funniest is that when fatchan and some of us migrated there they stated the "post quality has gone to shit" i'm not sure if they did have that kind quality to begin with
You forgot /animu/ggers.
As pasta says, word of mouth might be the best way to handle such as opposed to the administration shilling it, though as I see it, there's also the factor of letting the topic come up naturally as well.
Not like there's anything to prevent doing so (and I certainly will myself), but one should respect Eden's wish of leaving /v/ at the door when there.
Don't forget "/v/iggers", and of late "/animu/ggers". I swear, julay must have lost a few screws after Tengu's field day. "Everyone else is the problem" revisionist mentality.
Don't discount how much of it was just shitposting on the part of those wanting to watch Julay burn.
>word of mouth might be the best way to handle such as opposed to the administration shilling it
On the other hand, the site hasn't been shilled much at all, yet (((anons))) on Mark/v/ are already complaining about PastaBO or the site owner allegedly aggressively shilling the site anyway. I do wonder how many of those posts are Mark samefagging again.
I've browsed julay/v/ ever since shit hit the fan almost a year ago and it was a nice place, the people complaining about quality were the same poeple spamming cp.
The thing is... What if that is really what anons think? Maybe Mark is a few of them, but even then the negative reception Zchan is getting doesn't feel right.
They were shilling their lies back when the webring was first established already and ganging up on whoever said no to their bullshit, they can go fuck themselves
If it is right now or not isn't that important. Thing is that even if administration or anons here don't shill the site, other anons will still act as if we spammed threads with advertisements. And as long as this is a lie and no anon is actually there shilling, nobody is there to refute those anons either, so everyone else visiting the board will usually just see a few IPs complaining about fatchan shilling or accusing it of being an IRC cabal or something and with nobody refuting them those visiting anons will usually just believe that. I don't like shilling your site but I do wonder if it might be the only way to actually get users nowadays because everyone else will act as if you shilled or did something worse anyway.
Perhaps is the fact that the origin of this /v/, along with previous bad actors being shilly, has been too sudden. It'll probably take a while to see if anons are comfortable here, fatpeople had the lucky charm of being a small site on the webring that was overlooked for months so lack of trust was a non issue
Fat/v/ hovered around 400-450 users once the migration from 8kun/v/ was complete, not 100. Pasta only took over this board yesterday though.
By the way, I want to state something. Get it out of my system:
/svidya/ was cool for a bit, but then it sucked.
So did /vg/.
4chan was cool for a bit, but then it sucked. So did 8chan.
Fat/v/ was cool for a bit, but then it was nuked. So was Julay/v/.
Is an onion address planned?
In this ride we'll keep winning and losing, over and over again. This ride never ends.
This. It doesn't matter where we are. All that matters is that we are together.
But are >we?
If we join le webring once our population climbs above a reasonable (say... 200?) number. Hint, hint.
You are here so yes.
Also I foresee third party elements trying to drive a wedge between this imageboard and the others. Don't let them. Mostly because now we have entered the sick age of interboard vidya tournaments.
I think a solid idea should be shill smarter, not harder. Mention the place when appropriate to a discussion at hand, and otherwise don't be obnoxious about it. Granted, I suppose that doesn't do anything to prevent bad actors from interfering, but still.
And that is why having a backup plan for regrouping is important, should shit hit the fan here. I'm not a huge fan of how /a/ does things, but to their credit, they've managed to keep their posterbase together in making them aware of where to go if things went south, and continue to do so. Contrast how /v/ and other boards have wound up all the fucking place.
Is /pol/ even alive anywhere? The only site willing to host them is 8moe last I checked, ever since Esther made it and loli boards "too risky".
I've lurked some threads like the draw thread and there's always a (1) implying this IB is a honeypot and without explaining why. Only another (1) explained that it's suspicious that this board came up right after julay's suicide. So, yes, samefagging.
/v/ couldn't be coordinated into 1 single bunker simply because 99% of posters unironically want Mark to star in a mexican cartel torture video. So even though everyone knew about the fatty's bunker, most chose to go someplace else or to even abandon imageboards temporarily.
The point was a hypothetical discussion on how the OP could be improved so the thread would actually remain on topic and not just function as a circle jerk as it has in the past. However it's clearly not going to change and in fact has already gone to shit so I'll just return to filtering it as I have in the past.
Hopefully after the drama dies down that will happen. Though having a meta sticky as the first thing anons see doesn't help.
If you mean 8/vg/ it had a decent month or two at the start then the BO fell into paranoia and started up with retarded rules. It's impossible to please everyone.
julay/v/ was 1/4 fags from julay/k/ and the /rts/ thread who were hiding out there because they hated the cakejew and 8kun and 3/4 worthless /cow/ niggers and both sides of the board had separate existences entirely the good 1/4 drove what quality the board actually had not because of the BO or because of /cow/ but despite them while the /cow/ niggers spent their time on the usual drama because as usual anyone whos into lolcows is at least a bit of a lolcow themselves like how jewcy posters are bigger cows than the jew
now that /k/ left for anon.cafe theres basically no point left in using it even if it wasnt deleted
it had good threads but also shit threads because it was like two different boards at the same time depending which thread you went into or what timezone it was
well I'm here too.
It's not even worth giving a shit about anymore. At some point one party is going to need to be the bigger man and just stop it with this d&c bullshit. I have issues with a lot of boards and people in these communities but holy fuck do I just not want to deal with the d&c shilling anymore. We shouldn't be ranting and raving about Mark, or have containment threads about him. Everyone here already knows everything about this shit, we've all come to our conclusions, I just want to move on from this shit.
Of course, anon. Servants reflect leadership, and one of the leaders is Mark. And one of the leaders above him thinks it's a good idea to let Mark be a leader. But do not go after that drama. And if you want to go after that drama, then why are you on zchan? If you want to go after that drama, then instead of using zchan you can use several other websites in the webring made for anons who only want to use a board's topic as a facade for pushing increasingly petty and retarded trash that has less and less to do with a board's topic.
Make a thread about games for autists and I'll start posting about Snowrunner.
I'm posting on 7 different /v/s. Step up your game.
No, >we are actually all voices in my head.
should I get an offroad truck early or wait until I unlock mudtires ?
Something about these posts seems fishy.
If you want to suffer for no reason at first, then try to get by with that Fleetstar F2070, but you still must get an AWD + difflock combo. If you want to achieve F A S T in mud, then unlock Taymyr, sell GMC (which you should do anyway, trucks with no difflock are shite), maybe Fleetstar too, then travel to Russia, drink vodka and buy whatever tingles your fancy in offroad section. Green Voron comes with offroad gearbox by default, red Voron is overall better, but harder to upgrade and red Azov can into seismic detector and has got a lot of fuel, but goddamn it's long.
Excuse my retardation. This is embarrassing and I'm sure to get bullied. Is there a way to bring back the scrollbar?
Yeah I am using the Fleetstar and it is painful as hell. Especially the section between the garage and the warehouse. Where do I find this Taymyr ? Alaska ? Or is it buyable ?
Taymyr is the game's third region. I don't actually remember how I unlocked it, it happened too fast. Once you do that, you can travel to a garage there and buy Russian trucks. It's weird you have to do that, since you can jump to any garage you want instantly, but I can live with that.
I guess I'll keep grinding Michigan untill I unlock it then.
This whatever fuck board the site is using don't allow hover images?
This absolutely mandatory for everyone that isn't a subhuman phoneposter
Hover images are shit and you're shit. Just go like click click man, it's real simple.
>calls others subhuman
We're gonna make it, brah.
One thing we all should've learned by now is that, on anonymous imageboards, it is pointless to try and fight the spread of bad rumors, you're just chasing ghosts. You simply cannot defeat an enemy that doesn't exist, no matter what you do, it is a waste of time and effort trying to debate anons claiming "x is a fed," "y is a honeypot" "z is ran by the south korean shadow government" and whatnot. So let them. Let them spread fear, uncertainty and doubts about this place, the vols, me and anons posting here. Let em samefag for 100+ posts namecalling, astroturfing and making up lies on the spot. Let em say what they want, it really doesn't matter when it's all baseless claims backed up by not a shred of evidence, the anons that have more than 90 IQ will be able to smell the bullshit, and the ones that just "listen and believe," it's better to leave those niggerbrains behind. In short: don't worry about the drama, sticks and stones and take it easy.
Worry not about shilling, there's plenty of talk, even if it's negative. You can be certain pretty much everyone knows about this place already.
That's all lies, don't trust those noobfags, I can assure you everyone here is a true and trusted "anonymouse" and we all enjoy the pleasures of "PC" also the owner of this pictureboard is not an undercover operative of any government and none of your information is being forwarded to authorities, no jars of honey or cookies involved as those rot your teeth. Feel free to contact me in private with your full address and name so we can carry this conversation further on and share our favorite illegal images and plot some terrorist activities.
Exactly, "you win some, you lose some, it's all the same to me!"
>we are actually all voices in my head.
Yeah, can you guys hush up? I'm trying to do some thinking in here.
That and Pastanon gave up rather quickly the first time which may make anons apprehensive. Some prefer the devil they know, and the shit with julay vindicated that sentiment to a point.
Do me a solid and check if completing either Winter Stores or Not a Drill unlocks Taymyr. I think contracts with globe icons next to them unlock new stuff or cause changes to the game world.
>and the shit with julay vindicated that sentiment to a point.
Wow, one victory after years of defeats after defeats. Mark is saved.
Also, has anyone seen the drawfriend that drew pic related? He isn't even on cakekikes bunker.
Third time's the charm
8chan died you moron,it didn't live long enough to see itself become the suck.
nah, Pasta just giving up quickly is understandable. Managing a board and knowing what to delete and not is a bit complicated, because if you do something retarded you may end up creating a shitstorm
>Some prefer the devil they know
That is if you only have to choose between shit options. This can be a change though
Can we just forget mark exists at this point?
Just finished Danganronpa V3 (it's been on my backlog for centuries) and holy shit does that ending ever suck.
[spoiler]>everything outside of V3 chapter 6 doesn't matter anymore 'cause it was all a TV show the whole time[/spoiler]
I mean I wasn't expecting fucking Shakespeare, but seriously, they couldn't have come up with a better way to wrap things up? Otherwise, the game was pretty good overall. I liked being able to lie, made me feel a little devious every time. Oh, and Kokichi's undeniably the best character in this installment. [spoiler]Also holy shit I'm so glad to be here, thanks for making my life suck a little less you guys.[/spoiler]
Just realized spoiler text is done differently this time around, haven't been back since 8/v/. Please don't crucify me too terribly.
>it didn't live long enough to see itself become the suck
Most boards were shells of their former selves for the last two years after the April 1st hack in 2017, and the 2016 electionfag immigrants had already killed most of the fun. 8chan was around for 6 years total (5 if you start counting from the big 2014 exodus), and 4chan was able to start sucking in that same length of time just fine.
I think I'd bully you more for still using [spoiler] tags when 8chan supported double asterisks for its entire existence.
Well that's a bother, ** is easier to reach.
Did we really have to get the shitty fucking Discord spoilers again? That was the worst thing about Fatchan.
** is used for italics instead. Also bold is apparently one less '
If possible, it would be nice to let users customize their
Dang it, ahem.
If possible, it would be nice to let users customize their formatting, like on h8chan.
I just checked and Taymyr is unlocked without me doing either of those. That fucking trailer is stuck in the mud and I can't get it out.
can we have a snowrunner thread ?
I mean the trailer you must deliver in Not a Drill.
>fat dick is back in town
My maiden heart is at peace once more. Glad I found you niggers again.
Why yes, we can >>799
What would everyones feeling on a weekly book vidya club? /vg/ back on 8chan had toyed with the idea and there were a few fun games but I want to do it again if there is interest.
You do you, I'm gonna play the same 4-5 games over and over.
Only a viable idea if the OP has a DL of the game and any specific instructions to make it playable. I'd be down for it, sure.
That was what was posted in the original /vg/ club.
I'd do it less frequently than weekly. Once every two or even three weeks is better. It takes fags a day or two to set it up then probably a few days to finish the game and if they're non-neet they've only got the weekend for that.
Yeah it doesn't just have to be computer games. I can be emulated stuff too. Its more of how are we going to decide? Do 2 or three at a time? Or just vote?
I cannot type today holy shit.
Dolphin spammer found us.
This was dealt with quickly. Good job and git cucked, Dolphinfag!
Goddamnit. I don't want this place to be his new stomping grounds. Also, nice Hitler trips
And he was stopped immediately. Excellent work pasta
Let's just hope niggerpill and luciano don't show up as well.
It's still all over >>>/b/ and >>>/r9k/
The spam got deleted in both boards 2 minutes after I reported it on /b/. Nice.
>everywhere /r9k/ goes dolphin starts DDoSing
Why? Why /r9k/ of all places? What is his grudge against them?
Probably a mad roasty
You're talking about a guy who manipulated his way into becoming BO of julay/retro/ only to delete the entire board, which he later explained that he did because they had a thread about Web 1.0 nostalgia. A guy who has created multiple imageboards over the last several months, some (if not all) for the sole purpose of collecting random anons' IP addresses. There is no reason or logic to the things he does, he just has a serious case of autism, and the worst way of coping with it.
>Dolphin spammer is a mad roasty
Why does that make so much sense.
He's too autistic and consistent for that to be the case I think. He does more than just flail around angrily.
>And he was stopped immediately. Excellent work pasta
Probably he'll try again a few more times to try and work out which timezones have poor coverage, then target those with a more serious attempt. A fairly common technique used to subvert a board is to do that, hit the timezone(s) without mod/vol coverage hard and then when the BO attempts to recruit people to cover the now obvious gaps that's the opening to slip into the inner workings of the board since an application can be tailored to the problem they're causing. Something to watch out for though it's obviously less effective when there's a known pool of previous fags to recruit from first as there is here.
>You're talking about a guy who manipulated his way into becoming BO of julay/retro/ only to delete the entire board, which he later explained that he did because they had a thread about Web 1.0 nostalgia
Okay I didn't knew THAT
>Probably he'll try again a few more times to try and work out which timezones have poor coverage
It doesn't matter how fast it's deleted. He just immediately reports it to the host and registrar who have a high chance of immediately bending over at the slightest whiff of illegal activity, especially for any sort of imageboard other than 4chan.
That's far easier for him to do if he can first work out which times the BO is asleep but good point, if the goal is simply to get the site taken down. Wasn't part of the reason julay's domain died because lynxchan still kept cached images around even if they were deleted so it could easily be reported regardless of the speed it was removed?
Regardless I was really just pointing out a pattern that I've seen in the past. For example if you go back a few years it was trivial to work out which vol was awake when using 8/v/'s public logs and there was always a distinct rise in spam whenever mark and the more aggressive vols were asleep but for smaller boards it's fairly easily done: they know which times of day and what types of shit the BO is seeing a problem because they're responsible for it so they tailor a bunch of identities doesn't have to be part of a formal application process, just find out where the BO spends his time to be perfect fits to solve the problem. After the BO gives them whatever role the problem obviously goes away it can always be brought back if there's a need to justify the position again in future and that's them in. Repeat the process to insert more sockpuppets or other fags they're working with.
If you look at julay, cases like >>918 and of course julay/v/ such groups just hung around the IRC using similar tactics and ended up becoming vols and BOs all over the place.
Think about it, /cow/ has more exposed attack surface to camsloots than any other board, It's the likeliest entry wound.
Between that and Kiwifarms I've always hated /cow/, it's like having permanent Gaia Online raids bringing in newfags. It is the Eternal September of imageboards.
The only thing /geimu/ does differently is the lack of socialite threads and (on-board) meta threads. Is that "leaving /v/ at the door"?
I did try to warn the admin about that sort of thing. The obvious move is to tell the host/registrar well in advance that some butthurt 45-year-old living in his parents' basement is doing false flag attacks on imageboards he dislikes. (Or some similar story, the details don't really matter here.)
He needs to act preemptively and get the companies he's paying to require verifiable proof of identify before they shut off service. What's the dolphinposter gonna do, dox himself? That's an own goal. Use someone else's ID? Pretty sure that's fraud, and that he's not dumb enough to go to prison over an internet grudge.
The important thing is to act first and take precautions, rather than only react.
>he's not dumb enough to go to prison over an internet grudge.
>Saves and posts tons of CP
There's no sense in speculating about him, he just does shit "for the lulz". The esther site take down shit doesn't really fit his MO, though. Doesn't really matter who it is either way, and giving any individual the infamy of being responsible is counter productive.
Speaking of spammers, somebody flooded PLW's /japan/ with the same kind of garbage text (plus an angry message) that was spammed here some hours ago.
Pretty sure even LyxnChan as garbage as it is has a TPH captcha trigger (but for some reason not a PPH one). Could have been easily prevented on PLW.
Looks like dolphin is in his antics again
Think that was the case a few days back. Tengu apparently refuses to delete it because spam is free speech to him.
What kind of scrollbar?
LOOK, IT'S REDTEXT
In recent news:
>I made a github account to report issues, bugs and possible fixes to Tom. Reply to me or contact me through my email address with the shit you come across.
>sturgeon, the second janny, found his way back.
>Currently looking for a third, very serious janny, more details here >>1001
>TPH and PPH triggers were lowered in accordance to the activity we're getting for now to 10 and 90 respectively (highest I've seen in these days was 60), I'll raise them again when we pick up more steam.
>I lowered the bump limit to 400.
Sounds great, I liked those threads on /vg/.
Cetaceans never stood a chance against us, superior homos.
I recognize that art, I made one of those for a thread on /b/ too.
You said you are going to explain why you quite imageboards back then are going to release a PDF of some sort ? also can I janny for 30% :^)
No anon, it's better, I said it's a "work in progress." I said I'm gonna do it and that means I can't back off now, be patient and you'll see.
Why do you need a third janny?
So there's coverage at any given hour and some overlapping as well, why else?
Because you need at least 4 niggers for the powertripper circlejerk.
On second thought, this is the official explanation.
Who got it?
Let me remind you for one last time what kind of person Tengu is.
heh, why are you such a rulecuck?
You're better off asking on /b/, a tor address is a question for the admin, not BO.
Now I am torn between this place and antares.
Well not really given the posting speed
Did Antares finally speed up?
Just found out /v/ is live again. Great to be back! There's still some hope left in this world. My thanks and congrats to all involved, especially pasta BO for being just a dramafag who didn't actually quit.
Now the million dollar question is, have any countermeasures been taken or are being taken to prevent this site from being nuked again?
>I'll explain real soon, it's a work in progress.
Truth is, like all of us, you're here forever one way or the other.
I've been wondering the same, I really hope there's a backup. The board was shaping up beautifully, and I was pretty engaged in some threads when fat was nuked. I'd love to see at least the MS-DOS gaming thread restored.
I'm playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance for the first time.
Went into it expecting TW3 in a realistic setting without magic and fantasy elements.
What I'm getting instead is the jankiest and buggiest Skyrim clone I've ever seen, in a realistic setting.
Just as an example, I'm less than 6 hours into the game and already had to reload saves on 4 occasions due to getting permanently stuck in the scenery or freefalling through the world, each time in different areas. And I'm playing the most recent build (v1.9.5).
I'm still having fun with it, mostly because some of the ways the game fucks you over can be actually funny. But can't see myself completing even the main campaign. This game is pure eurojank and I'm not getting why it receives so much praise.
Also been playing Huntdown, a just-released 16-bit retro-style indie action game that's actually pretty good. Very reminiscent of Sega Genesis run and gun games such as Demolition Man.
>raise awareness to other lost fat/v/ anons
No shilling. Just discreetely drop the hint now and then in the midst of relevant discussions in other /v/ boards (like in meta threads, gg threads). That's how I found out about it.
>people are still posting on the cakejew /v/
Let them stay there, we don't want them here anyways.
I just quit /v/ IBs after fatchan went down, only lurking on webring boards now and then to see if fatchan would come back or some acceptable alternative. Just learned about it minutes ago thanks to some anon on Smug /vg/ who dropped the hint. Anyone with a shred of dignity left would rather quit imageboards altogether than go to cakejew /v/ or boomerchan /v/, at this point I'd rather go to OAG comments area or Reddit.
>have any countermeasures been taken or are being taken to prevent this site from being nuked again?
Supposedly we're on a decent host. Admin also has a bunch of other backup hosts on the ready if SHTF. And we're also recomended him 3 "extreme" hosts that allow anything, from right-wing death squads all the way to cheese pizza. So we're probably good.
> I really hope there's a backup
Unfortunately there isn't one
>This game is pure eurojank and I'm not getting why it receives so much praise
Part of it's colored by bias since the devs told the usual crowd to fuck off when they asked for niggers in medieval Bohemia. Personally I never finished it because the combat forced exploiting the AI or holding S anytime you fight more than one person.
The main appeal is in the writing and setting, I think. The drunken night with the priest followed by delivering his sermon with a hangover was a good one.
I don't know about others, but for me that thing never worked. It merely served as a reminder of how they worked, with only code being multiline and headings needing the entire line.
Ticking any boxes on other lines didn't change shit, changing the pre and postfix would not alter what I needed to use to do anything, and I never even figured out what the "Key" thing was for. Alt+S posted, Ctrl+S is reserved by the browser, so it wasn't like you could spoiler with some shortcut.
What browser? CTRL+S was always overridden when I had a reply window open in Pale Moon.
Ungoogled Chromium for the most part, I guess? Ctrl+S always just opened the save page as form, and frankly you shouldn't expect otherwise regardless. That'd be like overriding Alt+F4 or Ctrl+Alt+Del.
Then again, since the rest of that form never worked for me that particular feature not working might have been related.
Still works perfectly on 8kun right now. Running Pale Moon Linux 80x86-64.
Meant to spoiler
Good to know, thanks. What about DDoS protection?
>Unfortunately there isn't one
Damn shame, but can't be helped. Let's make /v/ great again on a clean slate, then.
>Part of it's colored by bias since the devs told the usual crowd to fuck off when they asked for niggers in medieval Bohemia.
That was a truly glorious moment, and I agree that this might influence the audience bias. Hadn't thought of that.
I've heard about the event with the drunk priest before, lots of people mention it. Seems to be one of the highlights of the game, and I'm sure it has its moments, and I'm still early but some of the dialogue is pretty good. Too bad the MC has the charisma of a washboard.
A bit, I think but the last posts where quite decent so it'd be a shame either way having it go to waste.
It's taken a while to be able to post. It's happening in a lot of sites for some reason.
On the right side. Every imageboard I view has it. It was only this Zchan/Fatchan that did not. I find the scrollbar convenient.
Works on my machine™.
>refuses to put the place on the webring to not attract unwanted attention
<ni/gg/erfa/gg/ots,the biggest attentionwhores and lolcow magnets around that advertise on twitter,are welcomed
Big think there admin,big think
i wonder how dolphinfag found this place so quick could it be that the cakeredditors redditors are advertising this as their fallback board on cakechan?
I have a scrollbar, both in mememoon and chromium.
Ask the admin on /b/ I'm a mere janny.
I don't care much about the drama but that shit is fucking hilarious and I nearly spat out a lung at that part
>Now the million dollar question is, have any countermeasures been taken or are being taken to prevent this site from being nuked again?
Uncertain, admin says that he has several domains and he's not going down without a fight, that said, Tom also said "I'm almost sure we can't be deplatformed!" and a day later site went down.
>Truth is, like all of us, you're here forever one way or the other.
Something like that, when I finish "it" soon™ everything will be clear as mud.
>Let them stay there
Indeed, you'd have to be a special kind of retard to consider going to markchan, best without honestly.
No idea what your issue is, works on my machine, have you tried a non furry browser?
>Big think there admin,big think
yours truly != admin
you can't stop it, I said no shilling several times, do you think it's gonna prevent anyone doing it either in good or in bad faith? Also about goobergabers >>462
You could've always just 'said no' to their shit and went with something along their lines of >>441 but i guess with it working out so well the first time around where even you told them repeatedly stop metafaggotry and even going as far to make a separate meta thread just so they can have their little meta-spergathon about their dead twitter hashtag without destroying any and all videogame discussion which they still ignored and went ahead with their metashit in the gamergate thread too because 'fuck you' that's why, you just couldn't resist could you?
Oh well,i guess this place may be dead on arrival at this point.
>went with something along their lines of
>rebrand it and it's gonna be good I swear even though it's gonna be populated by the same people
>or just say "no," you know, like moot did
And after that I'm also "just" going to say "no" to every other thread someone may not like because they of their inability to hide it.
>separate meta thread just so they can have their little meta-spergathon about their dead twitter hashtag without destroying any and all videogame discussion
Hello? That was the entire purpose of it, the rest board was active and jolly while faggots who cared about drama talked about drama in their autism cage and the people who didn't talked about video games instead, I don't know where you got the notion of video game discussion being "destroyed."
>i guess this place may be dead on arrival at this point.
See you tomorrow, fag.
All things considered, I understand some may not like gaymergay to a point they oppose its existence on the board at all. At the same time I fail to see it as the root of all evil, a blight upon imageboards and the source of everything wrong there is in the world as you make it to be.
hey BO how do you reply to these worrying accusations?
You never had a nervous breakdown?
Who does run the site and why?
The site owner was asked if he was willing to host fat/v/ and then the fat/v/ board owner was asked if he was willing to come back. The board owner was previously unhappy with the available sites and unwilling to claim /vg/ on 8chan.se, but with the new site it's similar to how it was when Fatchan was still up, so why shouldn't he come back?
Can I get a quick rundown on the pastaBO here?
PastaBO was blackpilled because fatchan was the only non trash imageboard left. Julay was shit, moe was shit, smuglo was a ghost town, animu bunker was shit, etc.
But then we got another JSchan board, which gave him some hope.
He was asked - by the previous owner - to run /v/ and he agreed. That's all there is to it really
quick run down on him:
>Mark bows to him
>in contact with Q
>rumored to be italian, Robi and some also anon known as Chaika Anon
>controls italy with an iron fist
>owns imageboards and forums all over the internet
>direct descendent of the ancient janny bloodline
>will bankroll the first imageboards on the web 3.0 (pastachan will be the first imageboard)
>in the process of pastaforming the webring into his own personal designated shitposting den
>has an IQ of 1488+
>ancient finnish cave paintings tell of an angel who will descend upon the earth and bring an era of funposting and unprecedented vidya progress with him
>that angel is the BO
>he owns pajeet mageboard software R&D labs around the world
>you likely have pastabots inside you right now
>every anon has the mark of the of the pasta implanted in them at birth
>the BO is in regular communication with the archangels carmack and kojima forwarding the word of tim buckley to the church of vidya
>discovered the ark of the covenant (zchan)
>he learned fluent japanese in under a week
>kimeemaru allows him full access to the evidence of rulecucking within the secret archives
>nation states entrust their meme reserves with him, there's no "kraut"chan only pastachan
>he is 69 years old, from the spaghetti-time reference point of the wheat base
>in reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big exodus to the end of imageboards
>he has been able to access the jewcy leaks since birth and has spoken about what he saw when he was newborn
>the pasta BO will guide /v/ into a new age of wisdom, peace, prosperity and most importantly video games
You know julay had multiple gamenights and tournaments going on, right? It was the nicest /v/ felt in a while. It went to shit after the 8kun exodus because then the BO’s newfaggotry was on full display.
Yes and it was filled with schizoids obsessed with gamergate
>It was the nicest /v/ felt in a while
Ok, basically, that shit is fucking hysterical, but I just wanted to talk about video games.
The "belated explanation" about "what happened" is what's been said a dozen times already: I was sick and tired and wanted to quit IBs once and for all, which I actually managed to for something like 3 weeks, then some anon told me via email about zchan and figured I'd give a shot at a fresh new-new start, that is it. And, if anyone is really enough of a niggerbrained gorilla to listen and believe to random claims with ZERO evidence, no, I wasn't at any point, and I'm not being monetarily compensated be a fucking JANNY on an unknown niche vidya board, not 2000 bucks, not 200, not 20, not 2, not 2 hotpockets. This site doesn't even have ads, and it's small as fuck, come on now.
>But why didn't you say this earlier?
Because I was and still am doing SOMETHING sizeable, which is requiring a moderate amount of effort and I don't want to disclose further details until I'm done with it, that is if I ever do because it's making me pull my hair out. That said
FUCK DRAMA, CEASE THIS FAGGOTRY AT ONCE, /v/ IS FOR FUKKEN VIDEO GAMES!
Now how about we listen to this anon and organize our very own gamenight instead?
The call that saved vidya gaems
I would also like to add, I may be sound oblivious, but I don't quite know why some "anons" seem to be antagonizing us that way and making up such bold and ridiculous bullshit. What I do know is that we should expect more of this shit to crop up later down the road and possibly spiral into more ridiculous claims, and that's ok.
>you likely have pastabots inside you right now
Anon why would you spike my anxiety by saying such a thing I just ate pasta oh god oh fucj
it's nice seeing you all again, I was upset fatchan was killed as i was getting comfy there, looking forward to having a good time here with everyone
also test pasta formatting
Probably FUD campaign from the same spastic zoo that was mentioned in >>1017 and >>1034 in combination with the twitter cancer lured in by 6 years ago. Telling lies is those goofballs' the favorite past time.
Listening to concern trolling is a waste of time. You can't trust anyone on the internet, rumors or not, and people will make claims you cannot verify to distract you from what you can. Don't be a stupid nigger.
It's fairly obvious who's coming up with that shit and pushing it, and he ought to be ignored like he was on fat/v/.
>and organize our very own gamenight instead?
I already did one and I plan to keep doing them until I get bored.
Does Zyklonchan's esoteric mageboard software backend created in a remote Sardinian forest hut through ancient arcane tomato rituals support per-file spoilers?
It seems that some of IRCfags are going to attack 8moe with CP so be warned guys
What a fag. Looks like they have backup domains so hope they do ok.
Jannies are always online, don't worry
>julay irc niggers have joined in with the ACF trannies to shit up and D&C the webring
It never ends this shit.
Well it turns out that the admin was right about the webring,or should they kick out julay out of webring I'm not sure what are they going to do in this situation
Avoiding the autism that /cow/ attracts isn't a bad move at all.
I hate Mark's guts, the bootleg site he made, the people who post on it and everything they stand for like any man but that's just not cool. That also means we should be alert as well. Then again it seems they're doing it only because of Mark, so maybe we'll be spared granted pasta isn't enemy of anyone.
There's no reason to associate the webring with Julay specifically. Also no one can be "kicked out" of the webring. It sounds like you've fallen for fedchan's retarded boogie(((mann)))ing of the webring and misunderstanding of how it works. No one runs the webring, no one owns it. Someone in the webring can invite anyone they want, and then it's down to the site admins to choose which boards they blacklist or whitelist.
The webring is a double edged sword, the benefit is discoverability and the downside is discoverability. You could argue being on the webring makes your site an easier target for harassment, but you could also argue that anyone willing to go this far isn't going to let any populated board go under the radar webring or not. My personal conclusion would be that for now it's probably best to lay low until things can become more stable, but I do get bothered and concerned by people painting the webring as this Julay owned evil entity, since this is an Acidkike and Cakekike narrative being spun.
This. Don't fall for D&C campaigns ran by retards who can't be assed to check for a single shred of proof before they start crying wolf. Bullshittery like this >>1195 probably comes out of the same brilliant minds.
I have my issues with mark but I don't want the anons there to have to get shit on because their board gets spammed with cp. I've come to realize that anons are the only constant. BOs come and go but its the anons that make the board what it is.
>I don't want the anons there to have to get shit on because their board
I don't know man, anons kinda chose their own grave, many of them willingly went to Mark's site just solely because it was Mark's site. I don't have much respect for them. I don't have much respect for Mark or Acid either but this is a "the enemy of my enemy" kinda situation, and if I had to choose between a lying dishonest fat cunt, and a cabal of pedoniggers on a mission to pull down imageboards, well I'm kinda torn on who's the worst dog in this fight.
It would go a long way if Mark dealt with the growing cabal of d&c posters on his board instead of passively enabling them and even sometime actively engaging in d&c himself. Ultimately I think 8chan.moe is a net benefit to imageboards regardless of how much I'd like to see Mark skinned alive, but it's really fucking hard to defend him or his posters when every single time I've visited the board it's been wall to wall lies and slander about other imageboards with no regard for the truth or discussing things in good faith. Acid and Mark make liking 8chan.moe or caring about its existence the hardest fucking thing in the world to muster. I don't want to sit around talking about how fucking horrible they are because discord trannies take advantage of all of this shit to d&c even further.
Even though I refuse to actively use it, an imageboard with completely open board creation does hold significant value in these trying times.
There are a few things I want to make absolutely clear for anyone who reads this: most of the posts in that picture (purple ID 8d03f0, green ID 677c23, blue ID 0c50cc) are made by the same guy. You can tell because he has the same schizoid posting style and makes similar grammatical errors in every single post. He also abuses contractions, formatting, and twitter niggerisms:
>I'm thinking a +2000Canada bucks
>"should" with both italics and underline
>repeatedly using anime images with the same thing; in this case, it's characters saluting, but he also likes the "angry character pointing at screen with gun" template
I call him Jap Autist, and I've been aware of him posting in various threads on 8chan/v/ since at least 2017, and anyone who spent time on Julay/meta/ or Julay/v/ will have encountered him, knowingly or not, because he's impossible to miss. I have personally asked him many things in the meta threads on Julay, and the only thing he's ever been consistent about is his total inability to speak English. He's also delusional, and repeatedly claimed to have personal connections to Muses, which he does not (and this was months ago, before all the recent IRC logs that cast doubt upon everyone). He's also a /cow/ addict who obsesses over e-celeb drama and has been hate-worshipping Mark for a very long time.
Seriously, read the contents of the posts in that picture. If you didn't have the post in this thread telling you that there's apparently a CP spam attack against 8moe, would you be able to tell anything about anyone? What pictures are hosted on what websites? Who's involved? You'd have no idea what the picture was discussing because it's the kind of mess only an ESL can create.
>so what? is the picture fake?
Well, I'm certainly not defending CP spammers or any other group, and I don't doubt that webring boards could/would be targeted by CP spam, either by rival webring boards or third parties. What he's saying could be very true: I just want to make it clear the the majority of what you're seeing is being posted by a /cow/fag who has obsessing over Mark's asshole and general webring/image board drama for years, and has always refused to provide clear answers. You can ask him simple questions like "why do you believe this?" or "who are you talking about?" and instead of a straight answer, you get a bunch of greentext, misused formatting, and a phonepost screencap he took from someone's Twitter timeline. I personally trust him as far as I can throw him, and considering he's likely an obese NEET, that isn't very far.
>julay IRC niggers
Were either of those groups explicitly mentioned and blamed in that image? This is what I'm talking about. I don't put it past either group to spam CP against 8moe, but was there any clear evidence provided?
>I don't want to sit around talking about how fucking horrible they are
And yet that's all you seem to do. Every time I open up zchan /v/ I get smacked in the face with a random post about how much Mark/Acid/8moe sucks. God I don't fucking care and all this non-stop sperging about it is ruining this board for me.
mods do this shit all the time, they quietly leave for a few months and hand it to a friend.
These forum trannies apparently dont know how moderation works.
You're in the meta thread, it's the drama containment thread. Of course you're gonna see people bitching about Mark here, retard. Where else are you seeing this to call it "non-stop sperging"?
There was one right there in the stalker thread, multiple posts accusing OP of stealing threads from 8moe. That's not the point though. Why are you even bringing up Mark in a seperate site and sperging about him 24/7? This isn't Julay and I don't want this board to be defined by the hatred of Mark.
>accusing OP of stealing threads from 8moe
No you retard. Some faggot on 8moe was copy-pasting threads that were originally made here.
>Some faggot on 8moe was copy-pasting threads that were originally made here
Right, my bad. Still shouldn't matter though. Zchan has threads copypasted from other places as well.
Refugees copy-pasted their own threads when zchan still had like 1 PPH.
The fag who's copy-pasting threads and posting them on 8moe is most likely doing it on purpose to stir up drama between the 2 sites.
Why zchan of all names?
Because "Zyklonchan" was deemed too long.
Damn, really? I guess I'm a retard who did something wrong. Maybe it's some sort of setting
Infinitechan went to the end of the integers, so we had to go alpabetical.
You think jannies would calm the fuck down after what happened but I can see my work is not done.
Well that's you and me anon, I'm glad you brought it up because I think it's about time.
>You're in the meta thread, it's the drama containment thread.
No, anon, you got it all wrong. See the OP?
>This will also double as a board meta thread, voice complaints, report issues, call jannies cocksuckers, keep drama OUT.
I figured I'd give you guys a chance first and thought you could behave, and you actually did for quite a while, but alas, that didn't last long. I've made a containment thread for it, it's cyclical and bumplocked since we haven't maxed out catalog pages yet.
From now onwards you are to talk about this kind of shit in this >>1451 thread, not here or anywhere else.
Any posts regarding drama that should be in its appropriate containment thread will be deleted on sight without exceptions, so please report them.
Delete the /gg/ thread, dolphin. You fucking mogoloid.
dolphin isn't a mod, moron
No, dolphin is kamisama.
Both are Mark. True story.
Mark is just hotwheels in disguise. He is playing the game on a level we can only hope to comprehend.
>I'd rather go to OAG comments area or Reddit.
>going to Reddit
He's a cuckime fan, what do you expect.
What the hell is with Trannies and Discord anyway?
Its invite-based structure, persistent UUIDs, common use of voice/cameras, and general circlejerk-y-ness, has made it into an ideal platform for a certain type of troon.
Specifically, recruitment based on cycles of grooming and blackmail against alienated manchildren.
I just found out that pastanigger is back with this board,we should let other anons know that you are back those 2 weeks on fatchan were really good.
Good to see you here anon, I missed you.
I hope the anon from anonedits and the gsg threads come back. I miss them.
Autists and attention whores always gravitate towards whatever chat program is popular because it gives them identities and eventually once they work their way up the chain either by promotion or by 'dating' trannies can hide a lot of their unattractiveness through tightly controlled webcam use, choice changers etc it also gives them power. Discord is the most recent and casual of these but it's a pattern you can trace backwards through MMOs and into IRC, going further back into bbses as well. Identities cause drama and attract dramafags.
Some retard just made a second Elona thread. I tried to report it as a duplicate thread, but I get
>Incorrect captcha answer
I kinda wanna make a battle tech thread but at the same time I feel like a general mech/mecha thread would offer more discussion. I am torn.
>Open the gamergate thread
>Retarded arguing about free speech that belongs on /pol/
It's a few jackasses acting in bad faith, like they did on fat/v/. Report and hide, and move on.
>Retarded arguing about free speech that belongs on 8kun
Please delete the /gg/ thread, it's not videogame anymore and it has never been. It's just nu/pol/ circlejerk of totally not SJW bashing SJW content. They don't play videogame and their threads always have the most replies.
Its a handful of spergs losing their shit one or two of which have a proxy. One of them just has gotten so ass hurt he is now going to spam the catalog.
>delete what i don't like
And sure enough he fucked up and was caught replying to himself.
Ayy lmao. BO take note, people are stirring shit again.
Alternatively nuke the retards who currently are arguing about porn being a Jewish trick and/or free speech and about Mark and Julay being behind the current state of the /gg/ thread.
Also rate my banners >>1697
Very nice nerd.
Yes, because no decent /v/ board would allow you. Jew. Take a look around the webring.
Go to bed.
>mark gets caught ID hopping on PLW during the initial shitstorm
>now some other faggot gets caught doing the same trying to play both sides
What the fuck? I just found this place. Fatchan was announced pretty well, why wasn't this?
Thank fucking god this place didn't see the traffic that fat/v/ did. Now cake/v/ retards are on fedchan and we can get comfy here without the insane attention. If that means a few anons won't be aware of here for a little while then so be it.
I'm pretty sure anons on Markchan that are paying attention already know about the existence of this site. Or do you really think the posters here all come from julay?
Different circumstances. Fatchan was chosen and "announced" by anons calling for a migration during a chaotic moment when there weren't as many alternatives, and that was deemed acceptable. Now that the dust has somewhat settled in many places, and a number of /v/ alts exist, I figured it'd be better to lay low and let people trickle in organically instead of being obnoxious and shilling everywhere possibly attracting a lot of unwanted attention as a side effect.
>Or do you really think the posters here all come from julay?
No? I never said that. I'm sure plenty of anons came from cake/v/ and elsewhere. I heard about here on antareschan. The difference is that the cake/v/ retards addicted to PPH don't feel obligated to post here now that fedchan has higher PPH. Also we don't have to listen to acid shitting up every meta thread with his constant updates about 8chan.moe that no one asked about.
That sucks, wish it'd be a sequel to Fatchan, which was so good despite the relatively high attention.
How's the stability on this? It was the weakest point of Fatchan since the administrator was unwilling to go through the trouble, so it better be fucking good. Can't rely on being "low profile" these days where they're trying to purge 8chan communities from the internet. A strong host and persistent admin is the only way to go, at least 8moe seems to have gotten that right.
The boss doesn't want to advertise Zchan on other sites because there's still a lot of dramafaggotry happening in some of them. He wants to stay low until things calm down to avoid feeding dramaqueers.
They're mostly contained in the GG thread as far I know.
>How's the stability on this?
The Admin said he has alternative domains, that his host doesn't mind imageboard shitposting, and that he won't let Zchan die so easily; and PastaBO assures he's taking his pills to avoid getting depressed and quitting like when Fatchan died.
Right now the weakest point of Z/v/ are the GG threads, and this is only because a couple of retarded dramaniggers are trying to start here a proxy war between 8moe and julay. Everything seems to be calm and nice.
I already deleted one that was blatant spam, were you referencing to that one or was there a third? Because I double checked and ain't seeing it.
>Please delete the /gg/ thread
>he says after shitting it up himself two days in a row
No can do.
>That sucks, wish it'd be a sequel to Fatchan, which was so good despite the relatively high attention.
Well, spiritually and technically it is, we're missing a part of the activity because of what I outlined here >>1743 coupled with the fact we seem to be getting a few pesky bad actors trying to antagonize us at all costs.
>How's the stability on this?
The admin, which you can reach on /b/ more specifically you can go to this thread where he's been fairly active >>>/b/309, claims to have several backup domains, and that he's fairly sure we can't be deplatformed, on top of that he's been suggested a number of alternative hosts he can switch to if it comes to that. In the end, much like with fatchan, that's all talk so make of that what you will.
Sorry, boss. Not gonna happen again, boss.
>try to ban
>1 day is minimum
>ban message is also removed with it
It's okay, boss. I didn't even notice you tried to ban me because I was busy posting on /b/.
I'm tired of all the infighting. 8/v/ has never been this splintered and frail, yet anons and some bad actors insist on antagonizing each other when it's the worst time ever for that.
Shut up, I'll go cry to Tom on github to add hour and minute long bans and then I'll be able to bully you proper, you'll see.
It's called identifying fracture points, with all of us somewhat segregated in smaller communities they're trying their hardest to make us turn on each other.
>add hour and minute long bans
Why not add warnings instead?
Why not have a text field where you enter the ban time in ab format? (a is the number, b is m, h, d, or y)
Lame FUD from the same place that brought us the heh pill. They still cling to that although pill shit posting had been left behind by virtuaaly everyone.
If you're accepting github request, could we get a button to retry connection to live posts? Sometimes my internet drops for a while (or I just suspend my computer) and that case it falls back to polling, and there's no way to get back live posts other than F5-ing the whole page.
That's not mark. He has a very distinctive posting style and a few very specific quirks that you can use to spot him. Could be someone from his circle though.
Are we a Chinese honeypot?
The backup website should be posted like in smugloli if something happens,have it in the bookmark just in case.
FUD. IP doesn't match and whois lookups say Phoenix, AZ.
Tech says that, but IP location says Nevada. How did he get that result from dududu anyways though? Other domains give me jack.
Do not listen to this man, web.archive.org is known to remove content.
Don't believe his lies.
Nice try glowies, but I'm not clicking it. Tor users are prohibited.
Why the hell did you allow Republic of Gamergaters around mod? Are you stupid or something?
Why are there so many (1)'s? I'm honestly wondering what hornet's nest got shat on to get someone this hiney hampered.
Boomers mad, post porn/loli.
USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST spam
Where are the mods wop, you said you were hiring more mods to have moderation on 24/7.
we are trying but the moderation tools aren't as good as they could be.
>you said you were hiring more mods to have moderation on 24/7.
Yeah that's what I said, but nobody volunteered lol.
Besides I did tell you to stop replying to bait, hide report and filter, did I not?
>USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST spam
>5. This is not a SFW board, NSFW content is allowed, just spoil it.
>NSFW content is allowed, just spoil it.
>NSFW content is allowed
>just spoil it.
I did all of that and you still ban me? Are you retarded? Just because one sperg trying to stir shit up doesn't mean you can sperg out too, sperg.
Imagine you went into this thread and posted FAGS FAGS FAGS for 4096 chars
Spam is spam
Huh? But I posted 3 pictures. Why are you lumping me with that? Are you insane?
>post porn in another unrelated thread unspoilered
>0 contribution to thread
>get your posts deleted
>do it again in the board meta thread but this time spoilered
>why did they persecute me so?
>post porn in another unrelated thread unspoilered
>0 contribution to thread
But I did, to spite the boomers.
>do it again in the board meta thread but this time spoilered
Just bend over bro.
>implying that means anything in the current year.
USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST ban evasion
You took bait, stop being a baitslut.
Just ban TOR for a week or two. EZ problem solved.
There are vpn and free vpn you know.
true, mods only preach but never commit to anything.
>there are still people dumb enough to use a "free" VPN and give shady companies perfect opportunity to use MITM attacks
Some faggot could make a small fortune injecting browser exploits to install cryptominers on such idiots.
shit about themes
Back on fatchan we were having some talk regarding the default theme of the board. Some anons said they didn't give a shit if we stuck with Yotsuba B or any other theme, meanwhile some others argued not everyone likes to keep cookies and it's somewhat a pain to switch to your favorite theme every time you close tabs. I personally use tomorrow, and it seems like that along other dark themes like lain is a popular choice. Should we switch to that or lain or some shit? On the same topic, and probably more important, does anyone have the custom CSS that fixed catalog proportions to be more compact?
Truly, we should've known better to trust jannies to ban things we personally dislike, fellow anonymous poster.
FREE beer in this link! >>1940
Wait a minute that ain't beer
Hey admin, will you be joining the Webring or are you going your own separate way? The webring's lacking a real /v/ after jula/v/ got nuked, and /geimu/ doesn't really cut it.
See here >>1749 and >>>/b/309
I don't want to apply because moderation is fucking gay for me but I still try to contribute to this site
>Back on fatchan we were having some talk regarding the default theme of the board. Some anons said they didn't give a shit if we stuck with Yotsuba B or any other theme, meanwhile some others argued not everyone likes to keep cookies and it's somewhat a pain to switch to your favorite theme every time you close tabs. I personally use tomorrow, and it seems like that along other dark themes like lain is a popular choice. Should we switch to that or lain or some shit?
I'd bet you that most dark theme users are not the ones who clear cookies habitually, use VPNs or do any other opsec.
Well that's the problem I have to choose between cookies or bleeding my eyes.
Or just install a browser extension that will unconditionally turn all sites dark.
>Having 4 stickies up
Here's your first Mark of zchan. Pray that you do not earn any more.
>Marks sperg is back
Well ackchually only 3 were by me, the 4th was the admin. As for the Marks, here's my predictions and don't you dare make em true.
Lamo who ever cares about stickies.
A simple solution to that would be allowing people to use a custom URL to apply settings they personally want.
That's what you deserve for using dark themes. But anecdotally dark themes are far more popular with younger faggots who mostly don't know/care about online privacy, or at least don't care enough to do something about it. Also phoneposters prefer dark themes but they obviously don't deserve consideration either way.
That should work fine as long as the site's html and css is decently constructed. If it's messy they can have odd results.
This thread could be unstickied but still, of course, left up and usable and remade when its past whatever relevant limits: the immediate drama has died down now and currently almost 1/4 of all posts are here instead of in threads actually about vidya because it's just too tempting to use when it's the first thing you see. A lot of /v/ alternatives have ended up spending more time complaining about Mark or wherever else they came from instead of getting on with being good boards in their own right. Just don't do the classic mistake and overcompensate by moving the meta off to another board entirely because that cuts off all but the most vocal anons from bothering to use it. Also if if it is unstickyed obviously it should be restickied it the moment any new drama comes up.
You're also technically incorrect as Mark actually had a huge bit of specific autism about never having more than two stickies on the board at once. Part of the reason for the drama that led to the 8/vg/ split way back was because he unstickyed some counter strike gamenight all the eurofags were playing so he could sticky a pointless sega marketing event instead, causing inevitable slavic outrage on grounds of shit taste to which he reacted with his usual tactic of banning anyone who complained and blaming it on whatever imagined threat was relevant at the time. This came after he'd already caused some other drama involving the RTS thread and delete all by IP which, RTS being the white man's genre, was also mostly populated with eurofags.
The pitfall of that method is that it only works if you access the site through that specific url you've bookmarked and won't work if you come in from clicking a link elsewhere. Possibly not a problem for an imageboard since you should be loading either the home page or a specific board's page first of all but it's been a hassle for me in the past.
Or custom CSS
Is that not essentially what the plugins do anyway?
Extensions can make deeper changes, like altering HTML or forcing custom JS.
That's something that only a loli would say to lure inocent anons in to her van,post hand if it's small we will report you to the police.
Who would win? An advanced stealth tank currently inside the enemy base?
OR a pill box?
I SEE YOU
Good to know.
Worse than easy AI.
Stickied threads are ugly. You should gun to have no more than 1.
BO what are your hopes for the future of this board?I enjoy having 10 pph or 20 max,i prefer to check the board once or twice a day if it's too fast i feel like the point is just to shit post as fast as posible the next tortanic insted of actually spend the majority of time playing games.
ALL THREADS SHOULD BE STICKIES
BECAUSE YOU ARE SPECIAL
Wonder if redtext like that works it didn't work in 8ch
I absolutely agree. High PPH boards are fucking horrible to try and keep up with. The splintering of /v/ ended up creating the perfect board experience for me since I no longer come back to threads where all of my posts are irrelevant and passed by because I stepped away from the computer for an hour. I think 50 PPH is the breaking point where the board becomes beyond hope and unusable, and the ideal PPH is as you said 10-30~.
This, and don't keep them stickied for long. The top of the index should be the place to go to see the very latest board activity, not to see several old ass threads clogging up space making the board look dead. Stickies should be used sparingly, and only for important PSAs.
>I enjoy having 10 pph or 20 max
Personally I'd prefer if it was at least ten times faster. The whole "actually I like it when the boards I browse are slow as fuck" thing never sat well with me, because post speed actually has very little impact on a board's quality, at least with these kinds of numbers. 8chan's /v/ in 2015 regularly surpassed 700 PPH, and it was great for the most part, not to mention all the other 8chan boards that had PPH in the hundreds back then. 4chan's /v/ currently moves at about 5000 PPH on average, and while it's certainly beyond redemption today, it was actually a reasonably enjoyable place to browse 8+ years ago, along with many of the other larger boards (except for /b/, which was never good).
If you want more concrete proof that a board being slow as balls doesn't make it good, take a look at: http://getgle.org/bbs/index.php?board=lounge . No offense to the guy that made that site, but it somehow manages to be pure AIDS despite being completely dead. It's all to do with the quality of the posters themselves, not how many of them there are, or how fast they're posting.
Lower PPH does generally correlate with higher post quality, obviously it doesn't mandate it though.
>8chan's /v/ in 2015 regularly surpassed 700 PPH, and it was great for the most part, not to mention all the other 8chan boards that had PPH in the hundreds back then.
I can't really remember that far back to get an accurate picture of how that felt, but what I do know is that today, here and now, threads moving at that speed would make me want to fucking kill myself.
Putting post quality aside, I much prefer conversations and topics lasting hours rather than minutes. With high PPH you begin turning imageboards into anonymous IRC's with image support rather than anonymous forums. Plus there's the issue that popularity brings normalfags as well as glow niggers. Maybe in 2015 pre-trump high PPH didn't have to correlate with low post quality and a terrible user experience, but it absolutely irrefutably would in 2020. Even these politically irrelevant dead boards routinely see glow niggers trying to subvert, and jesus christ if you take a quick glance at 8kun's /pol/ it's 40% glow niggers as its userbase.
I can understand desiring 30, 40, or even 50 PPH, but hundreds of PPH? No fucking way, that's absurd in today's imageboard climate.
God 2015 8chan /v/ was incredible.
Actual videogame discussion, OC, almost no template threads, and the worst the board had to deal with at the time was the HE spammer.
I think board-wide PPH isn't necessarily a good indicator of "too fast" for me, unless the board is 99% generals, since if PPH is too low, it means niche threads just languish forgotten forever, instead of either dying quickly or actually getting a slow but steady trickle of posts.
>With high PPH you begin turning imageboards into anonymous IRC's with image support rather than anonymous forums.
I'd hate to see what circlejerking imageboards you've been to that it becomes legitimately comparable to IRC.
>put /z/'s announcement in the blotter or whatever it's called
>move the janitorial applications thread to /z/
>keep the warning pinned until enough people are informed
>unpin the meta thread before drama returns and tell people to make new ones on /z/
There, I fixed the front page of /v/.
Any high speed "general" (especially a cyclical) that's allowed to drift off-topic. eCeleb generals especially.
pls no bully
t. stealth tonk
Weird, I don't see the thing about /z/ in the board message. Only the janny line.
I hear ya, but now you have to ERASE all the Marks, in fact give me an anti-Mark ticket too.
Good idea for the meta board announcement, I deleted the warning since it's been archived, screencapped, and the shit is gone from every board I checked. However, I'll keep the janny bread up for a couple more days and I'll keep this until it reaches post limit. I'm still somewhat unsure about what to do with board meta threads, I think they should stay up given how we're still green and people might want to address early issues with the board, having a regular one every set amount of time but also let anyone make them when they feel it's "needed" could be a possible approach. One thing I know for sure is I don't want them moved to a separate board. The rules obviously need to stay pinned and always visible since we don't have a rules page.
I don't think there has to be a meta thread at all,we have a board for that,at least something big happens it's completly unnecesary.
>I don't think there has to be a meta thread at all
then you might run into the retards making a "DELETE X THING" killing an innocent thread in the process, whenever it suits them.
>we have a board for that
putting a board specific meta thread on separate board doesn't seem very transparent honestly. Case in point, nobody liked it when /a/ did it and nobody liked it when julay/v/ did it.
if how often metas on 8ch/8kunny/v/ were user made and how often anons complained about Mark ignoring them is of any indication, then not really, they aren't. I think there needs to be a place to address whatever issue, or call mods shitdicks, that being a board meta.
There definitely needs to be one on the actual board because otherwise only the handful of fags who have really strong opinions or a specific agenda to push will go seek it out.
Speed can be annoying if you don't have a watchlist but I don't know what the odds are of this software getting one.
It happens but only if the same threads are made without a break. If the topic is changed you'll be fine.
>then you might run into the retards making a "DELETE X THING" killing an innocent thread in the process, whenever it suits them
meta threads have literally never stopped anyone from doing that
Granted, but it gives people one less reason to do it. Having no meta at all would greatly encourage it on the other hand.
Do you plan to continue using IDs? They confer no benefit and detract from anonymity on the board. I skimmed the thread but I wasn't able to find an answer to this.
>IDs sometimes make it easier to read conversations between multiple anons, assuming none has a dynamic IP or a VPN that cycles during the conversation.
<Anyone with a triple-digit IQ can easily follow a conversation between multiple anonymous posters.
In the exceedingly rare event their identities relevant to the conversation, each poster can simply say "I was >>####" or "I'm not the guy you're replying to, but . . ."
<IDs make people less anonymous within threads.
<IDs can be trivially circumvented by a VPN, sometimes by accident.
I have personally had people accuse me of samefagging many times over the years, simply because I changed my VPN proxy for an unrelated reason while in the middle of a discussion. This happens MUCH less on boards without IDs.
<IDs encourage people to care about an anon's post history rather than the contents of an individual post.
You can see this in the >(1) and >(large number) shitposts that were a staple of any thread on 8chan/v/. It provides a cheap, easy way to dismiss someone without saying anything of substance, either for his benefit or for the benefit of lurkers.
<IDs can be abused by bad actors (whom we have an awful lot of these days) to give the false impression of popularity or consensus on a topic.
It's one thing to say "just ignore it and don't fall for it," but you know that most anons are only here for the discussion and are not clued in to external drama that would help them identify these things. How many people believe that the webring was owned by Julay/Robi because Mark and other niggers kept spamming it everywhere? The best way to prevent things like this from taking root is to make it more obvious when someone is repeatedly pushing the same idea across posts and threads - IDs give this behaviour a thin veneer of credibility, which is more than it deserves.
It's a known fact that gamergate threads and the faggots who populate them cause problems. Why would you allow them to be on the board instead of simply forcing a news/current events thread and potentially making it cyclical? Hiding gamergate threads and pretending they don't exist is like pic related - this idea has been ass backwards ever 8chan provided the option to force anonymity as a "defence" against namefags, which simply made namefags invisible for anyone who turned it on.
You forgot catching people trying to samefag and failing, which happened just recently when some retard forgot to change his VPN proxy and replied to himself
>This happens MUCH less on boards without IDs.
It's noticed less, but happens far more often because the barrier to entry for samefagging is lower.
><IDs can be abused by bad actors (whom we have an awful lot of these days) to give the false impression of popularity or consensus on a topic.
The opposite is true. With IDs, when a bunch of (1)s show up in a large thread agreeing with a particular poster or viewpoint and not making any other posts after that, it's obvious what is happening. Without IDs, it goes by unnoticed. This is just a repetition of your point about VPNs and samefagging, that you're stating twice to bloat the number of bullet points you have.
>Wants both IDs and GG threads gone
50/50 chance you're the fag who was caught samefagging in the GG thread and want IDs gone because they caused you to be caught engaging in your samefaggotry.
>50/50 chance you're the fag who was caught samefagging in the GG thread and want IDs gone because they caused you to be caught engaging in your samefaggotry.
We knew it was all the same person anyways.
>You forgot catching people trying to samefag and failing, which happened just recently when some retard forgot to change his VPN proxy and replied to himself
I suppose that is true. I don't think it happens nearly often to justify all the other negative effects.
>but happens far more often because the barrier to entry for samefagging is lower
That isn't true. People lie and otherwise misrepresent reality most often when they stand to benefit from it, not when they can do so undetected. Most people want to be honest, and when you introduce a post counter to people's posts, it naturally makes anyone looking at it think "oh, this guy's been posting a fair amount, so he probably cares and/or knows his stuff." The boards I use without IDs have a consistently higher post quality than those with IDs, and it makes low-effort shitposting or attempts to steer discussion that much more obvious, because the anons there are accustomed to reading the posts more closely for their content.
>IDs let you tell when a bunch of (1)s ruin a thread and identify it
There was a Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines thread on 8chan/v/ a few months before the exodus, and exactly that happened to it (in fact, I know it did because one of the vols spoke to me about it and told me that all the different IDs were from the same IP hash, or whatever value the board used to track posters across IDs). I very clearly remember that nobody said anything about it, and nobody did anything to stop it, and none of the mods or vols took action about it. From the outside, sure, an anon could easily tell that someone was trying to ruin the thread, but that shit would stink whether it had an ID or not. They made no difference in that situation, and I think the same is true of any similar one.
>you're just bloating your points by repeating yourself
There's a big difference between someone changing IDs within a thread accidentally and doing it on purpose. The point about accidentally changing IDs is there to underscore that IDs don't work, even under ideal circumstances when everyone is following the rules.
>you're probably that guy from the GG thread
>you resemble someone I hate, thus you must be him
This is your brain on IDs. This is what happens when every post on the board contributes to a pseudo-identity. You're totally ignoring the content of those points, which I laid out in the most straightofrward and reasonable manner I could, and accusing me of being someone else with no proof because it'd make you happy and let you easily dismiss what I'm saying to keep things the way they are.
>not when they can do so undetected
*not when they can lie undetected
From were have you crawled out? There are only a handful of foggot murders who want both ids and gamergays gone. Just be honest. I know that a namefag called Thdran has parked himself in /cow/'s Rizon channel despite aparently not giving a shit about lolcows. Its all about conttol over a dead libertarian movement with you people.
Fuck off retard. IDs are here to stay, period.
>you must be a /cow/ namefag! just be honest! it's impossible for more than one person to have the same views!
Thank you for proving my point.
Not an argument.
>People lie and otherwise misrepresent reality most often when they stand to benefit from it, not when they can do so undetected.
How does having one's lies go undetected mutually exclude benefitting from spreading such lies?
I don't see how this changes the meaning of what you said or why you needed to correct yourself.
>but that shit would stink whether it had an ID or not.
Only if the attempt was incredibly poor.
None of these negative points ever come about and given the size of the population that wanders the boards I don't think you just happen to spout the exact same bullshit that helped make a total clusterfuck on cow/v/.
Reafing comprehension 0. This is not what have talked about. Thidran is not even posting on /cow/, you gigantic retard.
>How does having one's lies go undetected mutually exclude benefitting from spreading such lies?
"Benefitting from the lies" means getting authority or a reward within the system (in this case, having the number next to your ID increase) so that people listen to you more. It's the same thing as a post count or a registration date on forums: this guy was here five years before you, so he must know more than you, even if you're discussing something that has nothing to do with his experience and tastes.
>but IDs don't persist between threads, so that authority doesn't persist
That's true, but on slow boards like this threads last for longer, so it'll be more meaningful within a thread. Threads are also naturally focused on specific topics, so if somebody makes a thread to discuss topic X, then you can't exactly make a different thread for topic X as a palette cleanser.
You probably took it to mean benefitting as in trying to steer discussion and succeeding, which isn't quite what I meant. Sorry for not being clear. Having authority within the system does enable steering discussion, but in my view they aren't exactly the same.
>but people don't automatically respect anons for making lots of posts in a thread
The common practice is to mark a post as bad because the guy who made it has only (1) post in the thread. It's true that people won't say "you have lots of posts, wow, you're so knowledgeable, thank you" but it is only natural to deduce that the opposite of something which is bad due to its lack of a pattern is necessarily good due to being part of a pattern.
>None of these negative points ever come about
That is absolutely untrue. Every board I have ever seen use IDs (various /v/ boards, /co/, /pol/, smaller hobby boards that rose and fell) inevitably had people resort to >(1) and other drivel as a large part of normal discussion. The boards without IDs (/tg/, /a/, 8chan/animu/) were immensely more focused on their topics and more resistant to bad actors. I think the only exceptions I've ever seen were 8chan /fit/ and PLW/animu/, once the latter had its population slashed.
>given the size of the population that wanders the boards I don't think you just happen to spout the exact same bullshit that helped make a total clusterfuck on cow/v/
And you'd be accusing me of being from [outgroup] with or without IDs. What's the point?
Bitch all you want, IDs will never be removed. They make moderation a billion times easier and samefagging a billion times harder.
>people listen to you more. It's the same thing as a post count or a registration date on forums
This doesn't even happen in imageboards. People only shit on (1) & Done faggots. People with TOO MANY posts in a thread usually get ridiculed because they're spergs. If you lurked even 1 day here you would know that what you said doesn't apply.
>Every board I have ever seen use IDs inevitably had people resort to >(1) and other drivel as a large part of normal discussion.
Again, this only happens when the OP is a lazy sack of shit and baiting, or when a newfag makes a stupid post, or in case of /pol/, attempts to D&C. That is when people go >(1), you moron.
>You can see this in the >(1) and >(large number) shitposts that were a staple of any thread on 8chan/v/.
Decent chances that >(1) faggot is someone samefagging (especially if it's very convenient someone else comes and agrees with whichever side). Anons who just joined the thread can naturally prove the faggot calling them out wrong, of course, but that works only if they aren't someone's sockpuppet.
>it naturally makes anyone looking at it think "oh, this guy's been posting a fair amount, so he probably cares and/or knows his stuff."
How can >(large number) posters be simultaneously mocked and respected?
>That's true, but on slow boards like this threads last for longer, so it'll be more meaningful within a thread.
IDs are more useful as board speeds up. Currently it doesn't add much benefit and it makes me feel like circlejerking whenever my post posts get closer to being half the thread.
>Bitch all you want, IDs will never be removed. They make moderation a billion times easier and samefagging a billion times harder.
I like IDs but they don't really do either of these things. All someone has to do is get a VPN provider that gives out fixed IPs I know multiple cheap ones that do this and make sure to write down which IPs they've already been using. Or do the same thing but use a computer and a phone at the same time. In some ways IDs make samefagging easier for anyone smart enough to do this since plenty of fags think it's impossible for someone to consistently use multiple IDs in a single thread. IDs are good for keeping complicated discussions with loads of anons at once easier to follow but they're nothing more than placebo for preventing organised samefags.
On the other hand it does lead to amusing situations like mark outing himself when he's up to his jewish tricks.
>had people resort to >(1) and other drivel as a large part of normal discussion
Pulled straight out of your ass, that shit was so far down the order on things you'd be accused of that it only ever came up in obvious trainwrecks.
>And you'd be accusing me of being from [outgroup] with or without IDs. What's the point?
Pure projection, you are going on about a very specific talking point that enabled a specific group to fuck up a board just about a week after it happened so stop pretending that it's just random echos getting thrown your way.
I see you still resort to sperging in the meta thread. Just tell us were you cane from exactly. So we can make fun of you, I mean consider your arguments better.
>reply limit set to 500
>hit 500 replies
>guess I'll make a new one
>somehow new replies still appear
<Anyone with a triple-digit IQ can easily follow a conversation between multiple anonymous posters.
Not even a con.
<I have personally had people accuse me of samefagging many times over the years, simply because I changed my VPN proxy
That can be very much avoided by doing what you suggested earlier
>each poster can simply say "I was >>####"
<IDs encourage people to care about an anon's post history rather than the contents of an individual post.
If you're a retard, yes. It's just your duty to tell mouth breathers who care about post count to get dicks out of their mouths.
<IDs can be abused by bad actors (whom we have an awful lot of these days) to give the false impression of popularity or consensus on a topic.
And having no IDs can't? How is a thread filled with a guy IP hopping to samefag with multiple IDs any worse than one with one with the same guy not even needing to IP hop to pretend something's popular?
IDs are staying, if the jannies can see your ID within a thread and across the whole board for very legitimate purposes :^) anons seeing IDs in threads is the very least one should expect.
on the very, very pesky topic of GAMERGATE
>BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT!
No, that line is not going to be crossed, not today, not next week, not in a million years. Doing so would establish a precedent and mean anything you don't like can be censored if you complain about it enough. It's video games, it stays. Don't like it, hide it.
>FORCE A NAME CHANGE
Not my business, they can call themselves and the thread the "Ni/gg/ersped gang part of the internet /v/ideo game mafia club" as long as they follow the rules. I really don't care.
>It's a known fact that gamergate threads and the faggots who populate them cause problems.
Really, what kind of problems? You're gonna have to be more specific than that. The only thing I have a gripe with is how thin skinned and easy to bait they are despite countless early warnings from my part and the vols, but I guess that's a symptom of sitting in Mark's lap for way too long, so I'll cut them just a sliver of slack. In time they will either adapt or die.
>>reply limit set to 500
If you do refresh the thread you might notice that the post count shows something under 500 because jschan does not update the post count if posts are deleted, and as long as posts keep getting deleted new ones can be made
It now has the cyclical symbol, was it not set to cyclical deliberately? The first 6 posts or so of the thread have vanished accordingly.
>jschan does not update the post count if posts are deleted
oh yeah I remember something like that being mentioned back on fatchan
>It now has the cyclical symbol, was it not set to cyclical deliberately?
Wait what the fug :DDDD
I made it cyclical because it should have been from the start.
No that's stupid it just wipes older posts. And makes it impossible to archive, I made a new one and this is getting locked >>2211